Talk:DoWpro

Neutrality

Ok, I just want to ask, blatantly, should this article even be here at all? I mean really, it's blatant advertising, even more so with the "awesome" tag on top of it (which I personally don't think it deserves). Further, even though this is not a Wikipedia-esque wiki with any pretensions of being neutral, most articles do try and point out "the other side of the coin", and this article (as well as all the advertisement for it in other articles, e.g. the "Dawn of War" main article) looks like it was written by one of the bloody makers of the mod.

Just to give my two cents, I didn't think that the mod was that good at all. It's pretension of "fixing" the game is utterly horrendous, for a number of reasons; allow me to try and compile a few of them in a short and concise list in case anyone cares or perhaps even agrees.

1. It adds LOADS of unnecessary complexity and abstraction layers (while complexity is, in and of itself, not a bad thing, and can (especially in strategy games) often enhance and improve the experience, in the case of this mod it's mostly obtuse and in the way), especially to certain races' tech-trees.

2. It doesn't fix balance nearly as well as it claims to do (e.g. remember Wraithlords? Yeah, the rapetrain slowed it's pace, but it's still steamrolling your shit up).

3. Some things it claims are simply not true, e.g. "New units and cool options for every race".

These are just a few of the things I've noticed so far, while trying the mod out for a while. I could make a longer and more exhaustive list, but that would probably just make people go TL;DR. I'm not trying to hate on the mod as such, I'm quite sure it has it's dedicated fanbase and loyal fanboys, I'm just saying not everyone out there thinks that this mod is the shit, but just shit.

Basically, my proposal is, either add "the other side of the coin", or remove the blatant advertising that certain people apparently like to think of as an "article".

Sincerely yours, incassum. --81.227.82.87 02:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC) Damnit, edited for errors in my formatting /incassum --81.227.82.87 02:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you liked your games hopelessly broken or unbalanced. There is no "other side of the coin" here- except for your nitpicking, it seems. And it's awfully strange that nobody else had a problem with this article until you showed up. If you don't like the page, don't look at it.

Insincerely yours, --Newerfag 04:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I never said I did; you're accusing me of things I never claimed (in itself not uncommon amongst incompetent ::people), as well as making ad-hominem arguments (which I too just did, only in response however)... I did not say ::that the original DoW was well-balanced (it isn't), I just claimed that this mod does not, amongst many things it ::does not, deliver on it's promise of nigh-complete balance between all races, and the Eldar especially.

And there is, provably, another side of the coin, since not everyone likes this mod, and it's not awesome; there ::are many other mods out there, but none of them get this amount of space or advertising on 1d4chan or /tg/ in ::general, and none of them are so ridiculously fanboyish when they're mentioned. Heck, I can only assume that you're ::either one of the makers of the mod, or it's most rabid fanboy ever.

This mod is not perfect. Many like it, but just as many dislike it, and prefer other mods or even (the horror) ::to go modless. Apocalypse (or ultimate apocalypse or whatever it was called) is/was briefly mentioned on some ::article or other, how come that the mention of that mod is suddenly gone from the DoW article? Are there are ::actually devs from DoW"pro" here, making edits and wanking themselves off with adverts made for themselves by ::themselves?

Sincerely yours, incassum --81.227.82.87 13:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC) Godamnit, editing errors again... I can't seem to do any writing right /incassum --81.227.82.87 13:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)