Talk:Finecast

From 1d4chan

So I'm a newfag to this wiki but I thought that it'd be interesting to add a section to the finecast article about forge world. The new forge world models are packaged in a manner similar to finecast[1] and share some of its *ahem* ...traits. they've denied that their models are of GW quality and said that they had a quality control for their models (I can't find the link I was looking for but there was a letter out there where a contact at forge world said that the GW quality control was subpar) but this is apparently not the case (new forge world decimator storm laser model with bubbles IN THE GODDAMN PREVIEW IMAGE.) anyways thanks for reading. Have an extra joke for little reason: Why are the sisters of battle finecasts better than the metal ones? ... It's because they're holy!

BUT! section requires work.[edit]

The BUT! section of the article is poorly written and sounds like two people arguing about a rumour one of them heard. I'm not sure how to rewrite it while preserving the sentiment (I would rather delete it entirely) so I am asking other editors to weigh in and discuss how to handle this section.

Is it just me...[edit]

...or do the models just look like absolute ass, period? Not just the bubbles, they look rough as hell like they were hand-carved from the same shit they're made of, then molded based on the dick-poor sculpt? --72.215.154.250 16:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

A Little Info[edit]

I'm signed up for a newsletter from a small company called Hasslefree Miniatures. They do pretty decent sculpts and are a mom and pop type of company. They have recently begun a shift towards resin rather than metal minis and, due to a barrage of questions from their customers about the change, recently sent out a newsletter filled with a Q & A about resin. Here's a portion of the newsletter:

Q. Why Resin at all?

A. Resin holds more detail than metal. While good quality metal castings are excellent for minis, the best metal castings will not hold as much of the original detail as the best resin castings.

Also, the process for resin moulding allows more dynamic posed minis to be cast in a single piece (or less pieces). Top resin casters can cast almost anything in a single piece where even the best metal casters are handcuffed by the physical nature of spincasting metal.

Q. Why are they more expensive than your metal minis?

A. Resin minis have to be individually cast as opposed to metal where a single spin of a mould can result in up to a couple dozen human sized minis. Also resin cannot be re-used. If a metal mini comes out with a bad mould line or a part of the mini hasn't filed correctly it can be thrown in the melting pot and re-used, resin has to be thrown away.

Q. I've seen cheap resin minis and scenery/bases, sup with that?

A. Firstly, there are different methods of casting resin, you can use different materials (polyurethane, polyester etc.), there are different types of moulds (open and closed for example) and there are differing levels of skill (ability to use smaller feeds, accuracy and placing of mould cuts to avoid mould lines and so on).

This all means less, if any, mould lines, smoother surfaces and increased detail, less clean-up necessary, ability to cast dynamic and/or awkwardly posed minis, no air bubbles all of which basically equals minimal cleanup and better castings.

As for scenery and bases, there's a lot less to destroy with an air bubble or a mould line. A 1 mm air bubble on the side of a flat surface of a tank is easily fixed, on the face of a 28mm mini it's a disaster.

I thought this might shed a little light on Finecast, assuming GW switched for some of the same reasons. As is blatantly obvious to anyone who bothers to look, resin is indeed far cheaper than pewter, but a lot of the bitching about the prices focuses on that and completely ignore the fact that resin has different molding requirements than pewter. I confess I was one of those that bitched about prices until I read this. Trust this company's word if you wish (I do, free candy in every delivery plus many of their models=boobies). Here's the address if anyone really cares: www.hfminis.co.uk

The thing is, what that actually says is that the primary costs are incurred in quality control. Which, lest we forget, is the thing GW gets us to do for them. Colonel Hoover (talk) 22:55, 10 August 2014 (UTC)