Talk:Fyodor Karamazov
Theory: Is Karamazov secretly a traitor?[edit]
It was never explained in the lore how Karamazov (or [[1]] for that matter) got away with straight up murdering a whole ton of possibly innocent Imperial citizens without evidence that they were guilty of anything. The only one where he was sort of vindicated was when he executed Icarael, and even then I recall the details were fuzzy as to whether Icarael's followers were tainted by Chaos as a result of his teachings or not. You would think the Imperium would have been constructed with better checks and balances to prevent someone from becoming an Inquisitor just to destroy the Imperium from within, intentionally or by insane stupidity. Accident or not, Karamazov and Tyrus are the wet dream of forces of Alpharius who would want to destroy the Imperium from the inside out. KommissarReb (talk) 14:22, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- That's actually perfectly normal behavior for an Inquisitor. A significant number of Inquisitors firmly believe that the best approach is "kill them all, the Emperor knows his own". And if you earnestly think the Imperium was ever constructed with anything other than the assumption the Emperor would always be around to rule it, you haven't been paying attention.--Newerfag (talk) 16:30, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Karamazov has always been vindicated after the fact, that's why he gets away with it. Even when he knows he's killing an innocent he believes that if they weren't incompetent, they wouldn't be on trial for appearing guilty and so he believes the Imperium is better off without them. That also happens to be an opinion shared by many in his order. -- Triacom (talk) 18:46, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- For all the serious problems the Imperium has, there is usually a good reason for everything being the way it is. For example, Karamazov not telling other inquisitors or the Ecclesiarch how he came to his conclusions could be he doesn't know if any of them may be either traitors or enemy operatives in disguise (which was why Inquisitor Toth withheld knowledge of Tartarus from Gabriel Angelos until he knew he could trust him). Do Karamazov and Tyrus know the limits of the Emperor's power as far as saving those who are truly innocent or "worthy" from being killed or supposedly damned? I say that because Inquisitors I imagine would have access to knowledge about things most Imperials wouldn't be trusted with such as the Emperor's ability to directly help Imperials , whether that be by keeping the demons from the warp at bay with the Adeptus Custodes or how he supposedly empowers or intervenes psychically for the Sisters of Battle (since Inquisitors are basically like the IOM's agents of SHIELD from the Avengers). I haven't read the specifics of the Ecclesiarchy's teachings on the limitations and abilities of the Emperor or the Imperium's religion aren't published in any W40k related lore. KommissarReb (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Seeing as how Karamazov seems to have worked with the Sisters in the past, I think it's impossible for him to be ignorant when it comes to their acts of faith. That being said, there are ways to test a character in-universe when it comes to whether or not they're being empowered by the Emperor. One of those is using hexagrammic wards to muddle up a Psyker's abilities, another is exposing them to a blank, and a third would be to expose them to a Null Rod. Given Karamazov's position he should also be aware of these, as well as the fact that if somebody was being empowered by the Emperor these three things would have no effect on their abilities. If they were a psyker/chaos empowered (either by a chaos god or Daemon), their abilities would be heavily weakened, if not completely inaccessible which is the norm for 99% of cases. He might be a monster, but I wouldn't call Karamazov stupid. -- Triacom (talk) 03:34, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- For all the serious problems the Imperium has, there is usually a good reason for everything being the way it is. For example, Karamazov not telling other inquisitors or the Ecclesiarch how he came to his conclusions could be he doesn't know if any of them may be either traitors or enemy operatives in disguise (which was why Inquisitor Toth withheld knowledge of Tartarus from Gabriel Angelos until he knew he could trust him). Do Karamazov and Tyrus know the limits of the Emperor's power as far as saving those who are truly innocent or "worthy" from being killed or supposedly damned? I say that because Inquisitors I imagine would have access to knowledge about things most Imperials wouldn't be trusted with such as the Emperor's ability to directly help Imperials , whether that be by keeping the demons from the warp at bay with the Adeptus Custodes or how he supposedly empowers or intervenes psychically for the Sisters of Battle (since Inquisitors are basically like the IOM's agents of SHIELD from the Avengers). I haven't read the specifics of the Ecclesiarchy's teachings on the limitations and abilities of the Emperor or the Imperium's religion aren't published in any W40k related lore. KommissarReb (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)