Talk:Honsou

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Does he really deserve to be called the most evil? What about Bile or Lucius the Eternal? Where's the hard evidence that he is the most evil?--Orion Nexus 05:10, 7 May 2012 (BST)

Well, the daemonculaba was pretty fucked up, and anyone who can say "that's a good idea" is pretty high on the evil list. Then there was destroying an entire planet simply as an "up yours" gesture to Ventris. But mostly, it's the fact that Honsou is completely self-aware that he is a heartless monster.-- SFH 14:28, 7 May 2012 (BST)
Does it ever ascribe the Daemonculaba to Honsou exclusively, however? I feel that this overly exaggerates his evil, which isn't out of the norm for Chaos lords.
Well... in order of the Daemonculaba to work, the Iron Warriors first needed a sizable cache of gene-seed. Since Honsou was the guy that managed to acquire the gene-seed, there probably was no Daemonculaba before Honsou. --MercWithMouth 19:57, 9 May 2012 (BST)
Clearly, no other chaos marines have ever captured gene-seed stocks.
Bitches don't know 'bout my gene-seed stocks. Biggus Berrus 22:12, 9 May 2012 (BST)

It's extremely rare for Chaos to get ahold of Imperial gene seed so there probably wasn't that many chances for Chaos to devise ways to use it (viz., the Daemonculaba). Also, the Daemonculaba was so evil and so twisted, that it literally gave the Ultramarines' librarian nightmares which is what led Calgar to order Uriel Ventris and Pasanius Lysane to find and destroy it. If it had been created any earlier, it stands to reason the Ultramarines' librarian would have had nightmares about it that much sooner as well. --MercWithMouth 16:35, 11 May 2012 (BST)

Well, I can see your reasoning about the evil thing. Does this mean we'll get an Uriel Ventris page for comparison? Or are we still sticks in the mud about any Ultramarine that isn't Captain Titus? --Orion Nexus 05:06, 15 May 2012 (BST)

Go for it. --MercWithMouth 23:16, 18 May 2012 (BST)

I also subscribe that he's not more evil than the rest of the Galaxy. Hell, he has nothing on the Word Bearers, just read their novels, at least the first and third are not to be read at night and describe real terror. Also, there's not much pinning Honsou to the Daemonculaba - his boss has the plan for stealing the geneseed and he was just a soldier, and the Dark Mechanicus were there to take care of it. Honsou couldn't just pass up a good opportunity for in-vitro super-super-soldiers because of "ewwwww gross", especially when having a Daemon Prince to worry about. And hell, he didn't even worship Chaos, and in my book, anything that worships Chaos is libel to do 10 times as evil with 10 times the pleasure than your ordinary nonworshipper Traitor Marine. But hey, one guy's opinion on a wiki page, forced meme and all - EPIC, amirite? --78.108.63.44 04:23, 11 August 2012 (BST)

Honsou and the Daemonculaba do seem to be brought up a disproportionally large amount of times here.

There are two criterion the article presents for Honsou being the most evil; the daemonculaba and destroying a planet. The latter has been done by pretty much every Chaos Lord at least once, and the former isn't entirely his idea. Claiming he's the most evil seems like fanwankery by people who are just getting into 40K. Honsou does worship the Gods, though. And believes in Horus' plan to unite humanity under Chaos to better protect it from Xenos. Which, depending on how you look at it, arguably makes him less evil and more well intentioned.

Honsou doesn't worship the Chaos Gods. It's explicitly stated in The Chapter's Due that Honsou doesn't pray to the Chaos Gods, and only considers them useful in the potential for power they can give. -- SFH 05:31, 10 September 2012 (BST)
    • Still, he does want to use it to unite Humanity.