Talk:Humanity Fuck Yeah

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Was this entire article perchance written by someone who despises HFY? 19:36, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Fuck me this is some fucking cringe. 01:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

This article is "Humanity Fuck Yeah" for fucks sake, i removed all the special snowflake anti/pol/ bullshit at the end -- 20:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

We need a cleanup mark on this thread[edit]

Im not sure what kind of hippie messed with this article but in its current form, it is a mockery to HFY


Who decided empowered humans were not human? And on what authority did they make that decision? I disagree, but am doing so here to avoid cluttering the actual page. I think empowered humans could just as easily represent an evolution of humanity, much the way our survival on a hell world caused us to evolve along a specific path.

I (IraqiWalker) would like to second that motion. Who the hell thought that Humans using the literal power of their brains to smash aliens into pulp was not HFY?

Blood Plague?[edit]

I was wondering if the Blood Plague incident from WoW should be added to this page under the "we fuck up our own worlds for fun" section. Considering people literally did that. Wiping out entire populations, and annihilating cities, and worlds, that they specifically visit to engage in "fun" activities. There's no MINING there, but a whole lot of blood thirsty GENOCIDE, for the sake of it.

We committed bio-terrorism in order to destroy worlds we hang out in for fun.

Communism? Capitalism?[edit]

Some anon's trying to inject politics into the article at the end. Someone should change the ending, as the current one does nothing more than state "muh politics better than yours" rather than add any HFY at all.

Why is perhaps one of the oldest example of HFY not here[edit]

War of the Worlds by H. G. Wells, more specifically the HMS Thunder Child is maybe the oldest example of sci fi HFY. Can we think about adding it?

-If you want to go way back, then why not the Illiad then? ;) - The Awkward Man

We use Nitroglycerin (A very powerful High explosive) as medicine, for our HEARTS. [please include on HFY for why humans are *insane*]

Humanity Fuck NO![edit]

This article really needs to tone down the pro-human masturbation, and badly. Right now it reads like a bunch of insecure nerds wanking over how great their species is despite ignoring every possible weakness and piece of media where humans aren't the greatest thing in the universe. It's as nauseating as it is unfunny, and it needs to be fixed with a few pieces about humanity being put in its place. Because among the so-called virtues of humanity, humility is clearly lacking. --Newerfag (talk) 03:33, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I've removed most of the most egregious pro-human wank, as well as the "list of media" which was taking up half the page. There's no need to do TVTropes' job for them, and it was a gigantic eyesore in the worst possible manner. --Newerfag (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

No offense, but the article is called 'Humanity Fuck Yeah', not 'Humanity is sort of alright'. The whole point of the article and the related pieces is being a genre of fiction in which humanity isn't (for once) the scrappy underdog in a galaxy full of other species that are faster, tougher, stronger, smarter or simply 10,000 years of technological advancement ahead of humanity.

Yes, but the way it was going on you'd think it was the absolute greatest species to ever exist in the known universe and that it was true outside that specific genre as well. Can't it at least not be that obnoxiously self-congratulatory in its overall tone? Besides, if you need a list of that media you can just post a (read:only one, not five) TVTropes link that could do the same thing.--Newerfag (talk) 13:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
  • After some further consideration, I realize I may have acted a bit too hastily and not thought about what I was doing. However, the article's tone still needs to be improved so it doesn't just come off as "humans are awesome because we're human". At the very least, the intro paragraph needs to be edited extensively since it's trying to apply real world history as if it should automatically apply to works of fiction. Fiction written by and for humans, I might add. Honestly, I have to wonder if most of the HFY stories only work because of species-wide plot armor. After all, all those aliens could have easily gone through histories exactly like our own. More importantly, it should make it clear that it's merely a genre of fiction, not an objective fact as the article seems hell-bent on conveying. --Newerfag (talk) 15:40, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

I went and made a new section along these lines that you suggest, now we just need to improve the rest of the article.

I kinda just assumed the page was a purposefully satirical exaggeration in most regards (at least, before it got toned down a bit), kinda like the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer's view on the subject. TiamatRoar (talk) 04:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

HFY is a bunch of racist fucking cancer, and the worst part of /tg/. If I had a say in it I'd have this /pol/shit removed. Ollama84 (talk) 20:02, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes I still wish I had just dropped the hammer, but if it's a cancer it's of the inoperable variety, as the endless HFY threads keep proving. You're on your own, pal. --Newerfag (talk) 01:20, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Ollama84 HFY is racist? That is one thing I do not expect to see. As pretentiously obnoxious that this page could be, racism is not one of those as it seems to speak for humanity as a whole. And knowing your edits on the Nazi page, I would advise you to grow a thicker skin as your edits was historically dishonest and subjective/bias as fuck because, "Muh Feelings". And besides, using racism when none is found is one of the most asinine things one can do, it fucking dilutes the original meaning of the word and turns it into a weightless ad hominem insult. It is only appropriate when there is a clear attack on a certain ethnic group, but so far I haven't seen one on the HFY page yet. If there is racism in threads related to HFY, then sure, call them out on a separate section on the page, but don't just mass delete shit without a proper reasoning other then you don't agree with it, it just looks like vandalism more then anything else. Derpysaurus
    • Derpy, technically it's speciesist, which is something completely different from racism. If he's going to accuse it of being -ist, he should've at least used the correct term. --Newerfag (talk) 04:36, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I really hate the term 'speciesist', but that could be a good point to bring up. If he does mean this, then he should of clarified properly.Derpysaurus
    • IRL it's not really a thing since as far as anyone can tell humans are the only known sentient life, but in the fantasy and sci-fi settings that HFY is endemic to the label does fit and make sense. --Newerfag (talk) 19:35, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
    • Implying speciesism is wrong. Seriously, take your SJW ethnomasochist crap elsewhere, every healthy being stands for its' kind. IF by any chance aliens and humanity will clash, if you won't stand by your kin unless it goes on an atrocity spree to render it moot, you aren't worth anything. Humanity, FUCK NO!-- 05:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
      • I'll stand by the most interesting species, which will most likely not be the generic as fuck human species. Even with HFY you faggots can't manage to make humans anything more than Mary Sue'd orcs. Face it, humans are the worst species in fantasy, and if it wasn't for Tolkien defining fantasy for years to come we might have had more fantasy worlds without humans (If it makes you feel any better, I do include humans in my campaigns. I just have them all genocided before it begins). Ollama84 (talk) 02:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
      • I think you're forgetting the third and fourth factions; transhumanists and emus Skynet. By what measure is a human a human when the only faction that's truly human is the one that can't give you a shiny metal ass for aliens to bite? --Thannak (talk) 06:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

So did we discover another intelligent species or something because as it stands the only form of life viewing this page is humanity.

Fight here, not on the page.[edit]

This debate needs to happen, but it'd be good form to argue here instead of have an edit war. EatTheRich (talk) 22:53, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

  • We already argued and everyone's saying that this article is shit. It's like Goblin Slayer and other bandwagons with, what, three crybabies fighting endlessly to defend this garbage article that nobody else wants. It clogs up server space, and serves no function other than to jerk off the worst species in fiction. Ollama84 (talk) 09:34, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Funny, I don't remember "a single person shouting very loudly" being the definition of everyone. If nothing else, HFY is still a thing on /tg/ and as long as it remains so then this page is still relevant to the wiki. Whatever feeling you might have about it are irrelevant. --Newerfag (talk) 03:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
    • Please refer to most users in this discussion. People are pussyfooting around the issue saying "oh we should tone it down etc", but it's very obvious that nobody wants it here. It doesn't matter if it's relevant (I don't think it is; I haven't seen HFY in a while), it's cancerous, and needs to go. Ollama84 (talk) 04:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
      • Listen, there's a huge overlap between HFY and /pol/. It gives them a position to spout their hate speech and warrior mentality to other boards. I'd like if we killed this cancer at its source and remove /pol/, but we both know that isn't happening. The least we could do is ban HFY from /tg/ to destroy a major rallying point for right wingers on /tg/. Ollama84 (talk) 04:50, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
        • Good luck with that, you'll need it. But don't expect any support with it, here or anywhere else. Until then, do what the guy two posts down suggests and stop looking at the page if it offends you so much. Like I said, nobody cares how cancerous it feels to you. --Newerfag (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
      • Funny, but I don't remember "a single person (and one anon, apparently) shouting very loudly" being the definition of 'most users in this discussion' either. Do people even know the meaning of the word "irony" nowadays, or what? Ugh.
        • How about you just, you know, stop looking at the page and we all go on with our lives? Because I can assure you, until one of the admins blanks the page themselves, I'm one of many who will revert your childish attempts to vandalize or blank the page.

Bruuhhhh. All I get from this page is WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS. Get rid of the Laundry list of examples and condense down the first part to something that's clear and concise. My gripe with the "other perspective" is that it focuses mainly on meta aspects, and the way I see it is that the gripes are with shitty fanfiction which is something that is present just as much in 40k and D&D as it is in anything else. This whole article is a clusterfuck of ramblings.

  • Can I just say as someone who only rarely visits or edits this wiki, I often come back just to read this page. I appreciate it for what it is and don't take it seriously. It certainly doesn't reflect the way I'd react if a bunch of aliens actually showed up in real life. 10:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Honestly wasn't the whole point of this page to have a laugh and massively over-exaggerate HFY? Its like W40k, black humour style shit overly violent because that's funny.
  • The other perspective is just a wall of whiny bullshit Quiggsy (talk) 00:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • This discussion DOESN'T need to happen. This is an amazing page full of lulz. The idea of deleting it because some retarded SJW is whining about is feelings being hurt is totally faggotrocius. If i wanted to destroy "major rallying point for right wingers" would have joined bloody antifa. I wouldn't care less about stupid politics, i just want to read funny crap. --Phas (talk) 12:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
  • The discussion was resolved long before you lot showed up to beat a dead horse. Now hush, the adults are talking. --Newerfag (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Isn't there a thing on the main page saying "no egoboos?" With how you behave it would be a good idea to keep that in mind.
    • "The discussion was resolved" or "the adults are talking"? I suggest you make your mind, sir. --Phas (talk) 14:58, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
      • And I suggest you look at when the last edits made to this page were made. If you wanted to join that debate, you've long since missed your chance.--Newerfag (talk) 17:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
        • Is it tough? I can still see two tags on top of the page...
          • People are lazy, no surprise there. I can only assume nobody cared enough to take the tags off when it was over. --Newerfag (talk) 17:00, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

It's fair to say that the page would still benefit from some rework IMHO. At the moment it boils down to three sections.

  • Fun things that are fun to read. This part is fun but a bit messy. The introduction is longer that the only paragraph. Reorganizing and expanding would be nice.
  • Two paragraphs of random examples of HFY. In no particular order. Without any grouping.
  • 1500-odd words of rant on why HFY sucks mixed in with how everyone and is cousin is doing HFY and that's bad mixed with ideas on how to do HFY that doesn't suck. There are some interesting considerations here but the whole thing needs badly to be split and reorganized.

--Phas (talk) 10:42, 26 April 2018

  • IMO, the first part you describe is a bit too self-congratulatory for my tastes. Perhaps it's supposed to be ironic, but I can't finish reading it without rolling my eyes and asking myself if it's supposed to be satire.--Newerfag (talk) 02:32, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Is there something wrong with masturbation? Phas (talk) 11:36, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Thinking this further, you don't seem to grasp the concept of HFY. It's not satire. It's not irony. It's a mirror where we can look at ourselves as the vicious violent and merciless predator that we are. It's like watching your cute little cat dismembering a mouse. It's not exactly good or evil. It's... (grim) dark. And is cool. Oh my god is cool as hell. And the fact that we perceive it as cool is (grim) dark in itself. But it's still cool. Phas (talk)

Clean Up Mk. III[edit]

I think this page needs another clean up, but I don't want to touch anything without others having a say. Personally I think we should start off by just getting rid of Xenos pay attention, and Now with a Song, simple because it doesn't add anything useful or anything that isn't already covered further down on the page. Secondly Trivia and all its links need to be cleaned up and placed at the bottom of the article. Apart from that I'm open to suggestions on what everyone else thinks is the best way to proceed.