Talk:Jaghatai Khan

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Regarding this line: "(because GW are a firm believe in the Planet of Hats trope and didn't think hard enough to realize that the greatest generals in mankind's history would understand the need for flexibility)"

Accurate or no, it's just a jab at GW, with no relevance to the article. This wiki already has a problem with *BlAM*s being peppered all over the 40k articles. As for the statement itself, most Marine chapters are made like that so that each one has a distinct feel to it in combat. Fielding gratuitous flamer and melta weapons isn't always ideal (both in and out of game), but that's what the Salamanders do, because that's what makes them Salamanders. Also, it should be noted that Astartes in the fluff either supplement the Imperial Guard, or take up highly specialized spec-ops missions.--Asorel (talk) 20:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

"Of course, it's not like GW would be willing to resolve this either way. FALSE! Rumor has it that with the return of a certain red winged, Tzeentch worshipping Primarch, one of the loyalist Primarchs will turn chaos, and a chaos one will turn good, and right now, it's allegedly going to be KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!"

Is there any basis for this addition at all? There's been nothing of the sort on the usual reliable rumor mill of BoLS. Just one Loyalist Primarch coming back to set the stage for some lore changes.

BLOODY citations[edit]

This resulted in the only occasion[citation needed] where the Alpha Legion faced off with someone and the encounter ended with Alpharius saying "now that I did not expect."

This isn't Wikipedia or Lexicanum, citations are optional here. --Newerfag (talk) 18:57, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Maybe it can just be stated here. Rockingpilgrim (talk) 16:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Post heresy[edit]

I'm sorry, but when did Corax come back? --Kracked Mynd (talk) 06:26, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Read the new Lorgar novel. --2001:8003:3800:800:31C8:CA3A:2763:15D2 07:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Which book was this been trying to find it and no luck 2001:44B8:4152:B600:79F6:1718:3967:E2B8 10:35, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm also wondering this. It'd be nice to have a title and citation. --Kracked Mynd (talk) 13:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Found it! It's in a short story called Shadow of the Past in the book Sons of the Emperor which is part of the HH Primarch series. Reason you(or I) may not know about this book as it was only given away at Horus Heresy Weekender 2018 convention (but you can find a EPUB file of it online)

Spoiler

Now as it's set in the HH it is 30k but does have Corax kicking Lorgar ass not long after he move into the Eye and may be the reason his been hiding in his room for 10k years

--2001:44B8:4152:B600:79F6:1718:3967:E2B8 10:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

I gotcha. As I haven't read it yet, I'll not edit the page, but it doesn't sound like Corax is explicitly back, he didn't just disappear Leman Russ style. It might be worth mentioning that he hasn't been seen for 10k years.

Primarch math section[edit]

Hello, I'm new to mathhammer, but I believe Khan shouldn't be hitting 4 times. He has 6 attacks base and hits everyone except Lorgar on 4+, so that's 3 hits. Master-crafted is one reroll if not all the attacks hit (probability lesser than 1 but close enough), so it's another 4+, bringing up to 3.5 hits. Is there another attack from somewhere? I'm comparing with Fulgrim vs Curze: Fulgrim has 5+1 attacks and hits Curze on 4+, with Fireblade's MC he gets 3.5 hits as reflected in his section.

On the other hand, Khan should do more damage to Guilliman each round, AoR doesn't halve the unsaved wounds.

If no one has any issues, I'll rewrite the section during the weekend.

- His Dao is neither specialist weapon nor two handed so he gets an extra attack from his archaeotech pistol

-- Ah I see, thanks!