Talk:Maccabian Janissaries

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Regarding the Licensing issues, is it just that GW doesn't fully own the design to the Janissaries so they won't take a dip, or is it some other thing between them and the FFG?

I could have sworn the Deathwatch codex took some things from the FFG books Saladofstones (talk) 00:04, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

  • The Calixis Sector is entirely FFG, as far as I recall, yet gets mentioned in the main codex anyways if I recall correctly, for what it counts. TiamatRoar (talk) 00:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    • Under copyright law, whenever a company makes something, they have the legal rights to the bits that make it distinct. So while GW own 40k and the Astra Militarum product line (and can licence it to others) what FFG does with it is their business, subject to any restrictions in their contract. GW can then reference any new FFG fluff if they want to without any fuss, since you can't copyright an idea, but if they were to create a Maccabian Janissary product line they'd have to credit FFG for it, and FFG "could" demand a share of the sales based on the work they put into it... even if it was just a few drawings, since those were copyrightable. By the same token, we're unlikely to ever see a Captain Titus or a Gabriel Angelos model. -Dark Angel 2020 (talk) 04:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
      • I can see Captain Titus not having enough to warrant a model, as he's just a Captain (as likable as he is) and Space Marine received lukewarm reception. However, given that the Blood Ravens have an interesting backstory and chapter organization along with many, many named characters, I'm surprised they haven't milked their popularity with at least a codex. At least one kid is going to say "Hey that was in Dawn of War, I want that!" Saladofstones (talk) 00:16, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
      • That being said, FFG's (and SEGA's) copyright notice says that all illustrations, places, names, characters and their distinctive likenesses belong to GW and are used under license. So obviously GW either came up with the concept, or they got a good deal from their copyright lawyers if FFG/SEGA have agreed to forfeit their rights to their designs. Technically GW could make a Gabriel Angelos model or a regiment of Maccabian Janissaries if they so choose, guess they really are being lazy, or maybe their own contract says that they can't compete while the license is still being used? -Dark Angel 2020 (talk) 10:35, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
      • I remember the Eternal Crusade Developers gushing about how the results of the players' factions' victories would be canon in the Warhammer 40k verse and would be mentioned in other WH40k fluff. That sort of thing would only be possible if GW had the rights to the planets and system there as well as... er, the player results (although I'm not sure that latter one can be copyrighted anyways), although they wouldn't need the rights to the original characters for that (most speculation was that the victorious faction would simply get a brief mention in a codex). Of course, their contract with GW might be different from FFG's. TiamatRoar (talk) 12:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)