Talk:Main Page/2011

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This is an archive of the conversations during 2011 about the wiki as a whole.

Do not respond to these conversations, as they are stale and no longer read; this page is for archival purposes only, so we know what we were talking about.

2011


/co/-related articles[edit]

I'm noticing an increase in /co/ stuff, and not just /co/-inspired tabletop/trad games. Should we call the Commissar to BLAM this infection ChaOs, or welcome our /co/mrades with open arms? If the latter, should probably make a label like Template:/vg/. I nominate Comic-Sans for the font. --NotBrandX 19:36, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

  • It is because /tg/ is getting modhammered right now. Many /tg/-dwellers are fleeing to /co/ and /v/, so expect to see a rise in related interests. You want to stop it, fight the mods. --FlintTD 19:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Emprahsque[edit]

Just when I was about to forsake /tg/ for the recent lack of its humorous creativity, this thread sup/tg/ link easymodo link has given me new hope (and laughs). Should we make a new page?

If you don't transcribe it by tomorrow morning, I will. Remember to give it [[Category:Warhammer 40,000]] and put {{Story}} near the top. --NotBrandX 05:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
I warned you about transcripts bro. I told you dawg! --NotBrandX 00:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Best article of 2011. By far. Ragnasal 17:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Second --FlintTD 07:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Awww, you guys make it all worthwhile. Someone else.
Well, it's done now. The story's over. Someone else. 03:34, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Mailer is borked[edit]

I can't confirm my new account, the Preferences page says MAILER is broken every time I try. Any ideas? Someone else. 04:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

  • I'm having the same problem, with the following error message:

1d4chan could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your e-mail address for invalid characters.

Mailer returned: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function

I have double-checked my e-mail address for vailidity, and it's fine. Please advise. --Dr. Thompson 14:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Fighting Racism[edit]

sigh 194.90.112.148 felt it was necessary to find all mention of 'Jew' in articles, and replace them with insults about Arabs, and remove talk about Israel that isn't rainbows and kittens. I admit the Jew-jokes make me uncomfortable, but I know oppressive censorship is not the answer. I undid some edits, softened others (from 'Jew' to 'Jew stereotype') or just took out the racist comments where they didn't add to the humour of the article. --NotBrandX 15:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It's so weird how people fight against racism, unless the racist comments are about their ancestral enemies.
I'm for editing this shit out, not necessarily because its racist but because its just really lazy ass writing. Its almost never funny and neckbeards deserve better. --Petro 18:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Seriously guy if you're so offended actually help rewrite the articles so they're funny instead of just going on an emo blanking spree. --Petro 18:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

So anyway, because I just found out that reverting revisions every second wasn't as fun as I hoped, the edit war is getting uninteresting. The anon's edits are basically of his own personal, offended, opinion as a Jew (atleast I think it is, unless this is an elaborate troll plot that I'm still not aware of. In which case, disregard this statement), which he can't deal over the damned internet, it's not like every Jew in the world is being re-directed to this site and forced to read these articles.

Overall, a classic case of internet butthurt, while the jokes/stereotype aren't necessarily funny, deleting it out of his own incapability of accepting ethnic jokes/stereotype is hilarious in it's own right. So what if he doesn't think it's funny or it's offensive to him? This wiki doesn't revolve around him or his ethnic group either, it revolves around neckbeards, and to a lesser extent internet subculture.

P.S.:To 194.90.112.148: I suggest you commence your next E-crusade on this particular article.

The part where we shamelessly plug articles[edit]

Um, excuse me? I think there should be a place where we could say 'need help with idea x' and stuff... so I'm making this section. If you need help with an article that isn't solved in the help page (such as number-crunching, fluff-making or needing critique), edit this section. If it's fine with the mods, that is.

To start, I need some criticism and brainstorm on this one -> Sovereign: The Autonomy

Indonesian gentleman 13:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Main Page Index[edit]

It would be cool if you guys implemented some sort of featured page system, or maybe just a small index of pages which a casual reader could use to browse your wiki; I have nowhere to start with except for the list of all pages >< Cheers. --110.175.109.220

notsureifspammer Ragnasal 14:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
It's obviously a noob; I moved this to be above the spambot line. The noob it's a valid point, too: someone who walks in here off /tg/ without a specific article in mind is going to see the front page which is mostly codes of conduct. If you don't know MediaWiki already, the only thing that looks like a place to start browsing is the "categories" link, which is tiny compared to the rest of the page, and we don't have that many Categories. Sadly, the front page is locked, so we can't make ... wait. "(Aug 2008) Locked to registered users only." *rubs hands together* If you need me, I'll be in my lab. --NotBrandX 18:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
A new frontpage appears! --00:10, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I like it. Very swanky. - Shock Mox 06:51, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Good lord in heavens, it's awesome. Fatum 17:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

How about another column with external links to /tg/-related sites like Suptg has in the sidebar? Basically, how about moving this part of the tg entry to the front page. --Zecro 07:39, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Hacker attack[edit]

Strange, this is the same thing that happened to Lexicanum at around August 20. The entire thing being redirected to a Russian wiki and nothing is accessible.
Serious dog 11:20, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

As in literally the exact same thing? Must've been people targeting Warhammer-related wikis. At any rate the attack was simply vandalism, no "hacking" involved; scripts or bots to automate repeated actions don't really count. --87.194.31.223 23:17, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Fucking Xenooooooos! --64.202.243.128 21:18, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I destroy all Warhammer sites, haha. Also. Emperor of Gay 23:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

If that was the case, this guy is doing a terrible job at it.
Serious dog 01:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

What he does fortunately isn't that difficult to reverse once you realise what exactly it is that he's done. I've removed move permissions for almost everyone now, so no more page move spamming (it's copy+paste pagemoves for you now!), and protected all the templates he altered. It was also fairly trivial if a little tedious to revert what he did to the reliccommunity wiki, although without any administrative power there I can't stop him just doing it again. --Wikifag 01:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Sept 6 2011[edit]

As of right now, some guy named "QryaQrya" just edited a large number of articles by placing Imperial Guard category tags on them, even though a good number of them aren't even related to the Guard along with spamming some user-pages with: "This site is overminded by Dzinch.".

Serious dog 14:05, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

  • All this articles related to Imerial Guard. QryaQrya 14:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
There's a difference between the Imperial Guard and the Imperium which you are probably mistaking, you listed a ton of Space Marine-related articles to the Guard, yet they aren't even under the Imperial Guard. You also listed Alpharius and Omegon to it, and they're Chaos.....sort of. Serious dog 16:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
But why the Dzinch-thingy though? Isn't it wasting server space? Check your comp, maybe you're a carrier.
Apparently, he's not the only one. A guy named "Binzbeg the Serebr" typed that in my page. We're either under attack from zombie PCs or actual hackers.....Christ not again.
Serious dog 17:01, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Dziinch are Lohrd of ze Change. He rule the Galaksy. Warbinger of the Emperor 17:10, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

I count four five nine fourteen usernames that are fucking with the articles:

  • LolCircus changed a shitload of category tags from 'Chaos' to 'Chaos Marines,' including Warp and Loli Daemonette and Template:ChaosGods, none of which are marines Chaos or otherwise.
  • Altogether tagged a shitload of articles with Template:Heresy
  • QryaQrya changed a shitload of tags from Imperial to Imperial Guard, including chapters of the Adeptus Astartes which are specifically *not* Imperial Guard
  • Warbinger_of_the_Emperor (not warbringer, warbinger) with more Imperial -> Imperial Guard.
  • Binzbeg_the_Serebr created the "Not a heresy" template and tagged a shitload of articles with it.
  • For_the_Dzinch!_For_the_Rubric! has written "This site is overminded by Dzinch" (does s/he mean "Tzeentch"?) on ten User:Talk pages... including IP-address-only User:Talk pages, which will probably never be seen by those users.
  • Lolcron pasting the "Not a heresy" template onto another fifty articles, and more 'dzench overmind' messages on User:Talk pages.
  • Lord_Librarian more {{not a heresy}} and "overminded" polution.
  • Colossal_Faggot stealing a much-loved drawfag's name to tag articles like "Gue'vesa" to be in the "Inquisition" category. That's insult, injury and fail all in one burrito there.

These nine usernames spooged over many articles within roughly one 24-hour period... makes me think it's one person trying to look like many people. --NotBrandX 18:01, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, check the logs, are they posting one after the other in quick succession, or are some of them posting simultaneously? Indonesian gentleman 01:33, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to chime in and nominate Mr. Culexus, Daemonic Engine, and Lord of Terra to the list. Not LongPoster Again 11:58, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Please explain what these users do not. Detail. Maybe NotBrandX will do, as a above. -- 93.104.214.226
I already did explain what these users... WAIT A SECOND you're only pretending to be an innocent observer. Busted. --NotBrandX 13:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Deja Vu All Over Again[edit]

  • On the recent week roll-back, I'd just like to thank Wikifag for clearing up all the spam. And I hope nothing like this happens again --Luigi 14:02, 18 September 2011 (BST)

Here's how I fixed stuff last time:

  1. Go to an affected page.
  2. On said page, go to the "history" tab.
  3. Find (and click on) the latest revision that took place before any of the above users messed it up (should be on or before Sept. 6)
  4. Click the "edit" tab.
  5. Ignore the warning about editing an out-of-date revision, select the "minor edit" checkbox, and save the page.
    If you happen to remember some important edit made between 9/6 and 9/17, this would be a good time to make it. In that case, depending on how extensive the edit is, maybe leave the "minor edit" box unchecked.
  6. Repeat until everything is fixed.

Note that it shouldn't actually take that long, there's only 366 pages; just keep plugging along, and we'll get it all put back.

Here is how we will know we're done:

  1. The templates "Not a heresy", "Not a heretic", and "Xenos" will have no transclusions.
  2. The categories Chaos Marines, Daemons, Simple Chaos, Adeptus and Ordos Imperial Church, Imperial Fleet, Imperial Guard, Inquisition, and Simple Imperial will be empty, except for the Deletion tag. Done!

Truly, the Emperor's work is never done. --Not LongPoster Again 14:34, 18 September 2011 (BST)

P.S. I found Russian deviantArt user by the name of Dzinch. Coincidence? Probably. --Not LongPoster Again 14:34, 18 September 2011 (BST)

Yeah, I also found that guy when I googled 'Dzinch', I wonder if it's him spammming or an overzealous fan... --Luigi 14:54, 18 September 2011 (BST)

All those categories you stated above are now empty and put up for deletion --Luigi 18:57, 18 September 2011 (BST)

I guess the Emperor's work sometimes is done? --Not LongPoster Again 19:02, 18 September 2011 (BST)
Sometimes.....but don't hold your breath lol --Luigi 19:03, 18 September 2011 (BST)


Chanel bags? For neckbeards?[edit]

Just saw that there's two accounts spamming ads for Chanel bags and such. Look out for User:Zhanzhan and User:Zhan901017, he's spammed at least 5 pages now. A 21-year old dude I guess. Indonesian gentleman 07:53, 20 September 2011 (BST)


Suspicious user accounts[edit]

Today I see three irregularly-named user accounts being made. They haven't done anything... yet.

  • (User creation log); 01:23 . . 2mjLemF5 (Talk | contribs) New user account
  • (User creation log); 03:04 . . 9Djcr6Tif (Talk | contribs) New user account
  • (User creation log); 03:19 . . Et9Y4B6d (Talk | contribs) New user account

So yeah, either it's some kind of spambot dud thingy, or it's a mole of some kind. Better put them under surveillance. Indonesian gentleman 08:09, 27 September 2011 (BST)

Found two more aberrations.

  • (User creation log); 05:31 . . Jy8x6bpC (Talk | contribs) New user account
  • (User creation log); 05:01 . . X38N6K2af3 (Talk | contribs) New user account

Indonesian gentleman 11:28, 29 September 2011 (BST)

It's pretty clearly 'bots that are crawling and looking for a way in. They try to create a new page, or edit, and fail, so they are programmed to create a user account and try again. Thing is, they won't know that they will fail even after creating a new account, and they sure as hell won't clean up after themselves when they fail. 'fraid we'll never see the end of this unless creating new users is also protected by anti-robot methods (like captcha). More of the "pollute the rivers if we can make even a nickel" attitude of spammers. --NotBrandX 13:43, 29 September 2011 (BST)

I found a face book page under the named Dzich. I looked at his thing and it looked kinda odd... He took his page down last night. Thought I would give you guys a update if thats cool. -Nurgle

Images[edit]

Does anyone know why uploading new versions of an image has been disabled? --Ugolino

It was disabled temporarily because the vandal from a few weeks ago was abusing it. See File:Big_Gay_Purple_d4.png. --NotBrandX 19:11, 26 September 2011 (BST)
I see. Any chance that it'll be restored soon? The vandal seems to be gone... --Ugolino

New Category: Homebrew Rules[edit]

I've been publishing the /tg/-made games to this wiki, so we can reference them and improve on them as living documents, but when I categorize them I have to use Category:Homebrew Settings because that's been the custom up until now. I think we have enough homemade rulesystems now we should separate the /tg/-made settings from the /tg/-made rulesets. --NotBrandX 19:11, 26 September 2011 (BST)

Nobody objects, I guess, so I'm doing it. --NotBrandX 15:37, 30 September 2011 (BST)

Editor buttons missing[edit]

Where are all of our fancy editing buttons? Living without that signature button is a real pain. --FlintTD

Just four-tilde it, man. Indonesian gentleman 08:51, 30 September 2011 (BST)

I never used the "fancy editing buttons." I know the buttons over at Wikia are a pain in the ass. I've always signed my comments with --~~~~. Three for a link to my User: page; four to add a timestamp too. -NotBrandX 15:11, 30 September 2011 (BST)

Alright, alright. It was mostly the signature anyway... --FlintTD 21:27, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Gallery problems[edit]

For some reason, both in Internet Exploder and Firefaux galleries won't show up properly for me. They used to, but for a few weeks now they've been fucked up, putting all the images in one vertical row, instead of four next to each other before the next row starts. Does anyone else know what's going on? Biggus Berrus 10:18, 3 October 2011 (BST)

This is probably related to Wikifag keeping the old skins when he upgraded the wiki after all that vandalism a few weeks ago and he says he'll try and fix it once he has time. How long that means the lazy bugger will wait before he does anything, though, is a mystery.
Maybe we should start a betting pool. --87.194.31.223 14:54, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Uploading problems[edit]

I'm trying to upload an image, but for some reason I get a 413 error (goddamnit Hussie). The image is well below the allowed size (1.09mb out of the allowed 2), but for some reason it just won't upload. What do? Biggus Berrus 22:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm getting the same eror aswell, likely just a bug or server error, Wikifag will probably get to issue after finding a way to deal w/ this recent spammer bloom we've been dealing with lately. Shame, I have a whole bunch of great images I'd like to upload... -- Mr. Spooky 16, November 2011

Try again and tell me if it's still doing it. Also tell me if you've only noticed it happening with very large images and what the threshold seems to be for the size where it starts crapping out. --Wikifag 20:52, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Just tried uploading a 1.83 MB image and got a 413 error, then tried a 1.20 MB image, again a 413. -- Mr. Spooky 16, November 2011

Note to self: restart webserver when you change the config files. It should be happy now, let me know if it complains. --Wikifag 00:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I was able to upload File:Map karameikos 1981.jpg just fine. --NotBrandX 01:18, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

But I failed trying to update the tau caste nudes (thumbnail was some star and devil girls booze advert thing?)

Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/home/1d4chan/public/images/thumb/0/0d/Tau_caste_nudes.jpg/646px-Tau_caste_nudes.jpg': Permission denied @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2480.
Seems to be working now. Don't ask what I did to fix it because I'm not sure. The thumb has been nailed! --Wikifag 21:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

E-mail confirmation broken?[edit]

Mailer returned: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function

E-mail address is def valid and typed correctly. Any ideas?

Not This Shit Again[edit]

Well, gents, seems we have another edit war brewing. A certain controversial page has been blanked multiple times by several users, and has seen multiple attempts to deface, remove, or in other means screw with it. We're gonna wanna keep an eye on it, lest we see a repeat of the 4e or Touhou incidents. -- Jaimas 05:34, 18 November 2011 (EST)

  • As an addendum, the primary culprits are these two. Again, keep an eye out. -- Jaimas 05:40, 18 November 2011 (EST)
    • Yeah, making a contribution makes me a culprit. Or you know, I bartered a compromise that has stopped the edit war. Which at worse makes me Neville Chamberlain -- AmbullFucker
      • Yes, because randomly trolling pages as "negotiation" for not blanking them clearly makes you a superior diplomat. -- Jaimas 05:48, 18 November 2011 (EST)
        • I'm not claiming to be a very good diplomat, but I'm not trying to troll anyone. I mean the page has a huge edit history, clearly the article content needs balancing. It doesn't need the extensive character histories, for example. A list of /tg/ made ponies would be cool, as would a stronger focus on the humour the meme has evoked. I didn't add most of the slurs, just cut it down so the other chap stopped blanking the damned thing. AmbullFucker
        • Fair enough, then. -- Jaimas 06:09, 18 November 2011 (EST)

And it's jackpot again. Plz halp. Biggus Berrus 17:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

IRC[edit]

Nobody uses the IRC, shouldn't it be removed from the mainpage?

well, people should start using the IRC. (Yeah, probably.) --Zecro 07:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Bot Troubles in Paradise[edit]

Looks like some Spambots have managed to get past our security protocols. Is it dumb luck, or have the bots learned how to beat captcha? -- Jaimas 09:57, 1 November 2011 (EST)

  • I have seen on other forums (YaBB) where human interaction is required to create an account (activating, captcha), after which the bots take over.

Going over the wiki logs for the past week, I count 35 banhammers by Wikifag between Nov 2 - Nov 9. That's about five spam attacks per day. update: 21 new users in the past three days, averaging 7/day, the bots are accellerating. Throne, that's a lot of spam servitors trying to crawl up our collective asses. --NotBrandX 03:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

I've tried using a little extension to block known spammy IP addresses using stopforumspam.com's list, but unfortunately it seems not to have done much good. It could be a lot worse, though; at least this is manageable. --Wikifag 09:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
One thing we regs can do is reduce Wikifag's workload a bit by reverting all these pointless fucking edits they keep doing. In addition to helping the guy out (he does so much for us), It'll make locking onto the spambots and blanket-banning them that much easier. -- Jaimas 09:42, 12 November 2011 (EST)
As a note - if you do blank a spam page please remember to leave a {{delete}} template on it. This will make it easier to find at a later if for whatever reason the page is initially missed. --Wikifag 14:52, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Holy shit there's a load of these bot accounts spawning all over the place. But today, they've evolved. They now create their own pages, filled with spam. And they seem to make a lot of it during 4chan's frequent lagging sprees. Coincidence? I think not. Indonesian gentleman 07:40, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

New plan: when you made a new account, there's a 7-14 day period during which you cannot post links to external pages. Is this possible y/n? Biggus Berrus 08:03, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

It's probably possible if I learn how to use Extension:Abuse_Filter properly but that would also entail forcing people to register and wait for two weeks in order to post external links and I really don't want to do that. As it stands the frequent spam is frustrating to see on the recent changes, but it's not deleting any legitimate content or causing problems other than taking up space, so I'm loathe to implement countermeasures that will impact on legitimate users' ability to contribute. --Wikifag 14:46, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
How about all new users want to post external links have to have that shit approved by you or your right-hand man before it can get posted? Is that possible? Biggus Berrus 15:29, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
It'd be pretty hacky and I can't find an easy way of doing anything like that. In the meantime I've tried installing another anti-spam extension and we'll see if that has any effect on the stuff. --Wikifag 23:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
MY WEAPON HAS NO EFFECT!? I need bigger anti-spam. --Wikifag 08:41, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

33 "users" banned in the last three days. That's a little more than double what we had a month ago. Oh noes. --NotBrandX 15:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

New template I lifted off another mediawiki to help put a big flashing sign on spambots and shitspammers. Template:Botreport --NotBrandX

Example: {{Botreport|NotBrandX}} - NotBrandX (contribs | logs | block | IP Check)

Interesting side-note - Many of the bots are now spamming advertisements for their creators at this fucking site. Because a site with wiki spambots is just the fucking thing to spam on a fucking wiki. - Jaimas 23:04, 14 January 2012 (EST)

A Community Request[edit]

It has come to my attention in this recent thread in /tg/[1] that a Jewtoob user by the name of 1R0QU012 has garnered notourity and has been targeted. Normally I wouldnt give a glance to such a thing, but this user has shown apocolyptic levels of autism that I personally rarely ever encounter anywhere. He has been arguing on these two Spartan vs. Space Marine videos [2] [3] endlessly and non-stop for over a year and it is utterly hilarious. Thus /tg/ has requested that we create an article about this individual as a means of a central attack and information hub. Just read his youtube comments and I assure that you will not be disappointed -- Mr. Spooky ,Dec 2 2011

Some believe that he is the Autistic Buddha, having achieved autistic nirvana. -- 96.241.62.135

Please try to sign your post next time, but thank you for your input none the less. -- Mr. Spooky ,Dec 2 2011

If people not signing messages bugs you, you can add the signature yourself. Their username/IP is in the changelogs. --NotBrandX

That's what I get for spending too much time on Lexicanum, the Warp corrupts. -- Mr. Spooky

Am I the only one that thinks this section might be an attempt at a personal army request?--77.247.181.165 16:50, 29 May 2012 (BST)