The Blessed Lady
Isn't this dude also a perpetual?
Alivia Sureka's relationship with Emps
Copying this from her talk page 'cause more people migght see it here..Where in canon does it actually say that the Emperor loved (romantically) her, or vice versa? Or is that a fan thing? Because I've heard it all the time but never read it in official lore Based Tzeentch (talk) 12:53, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Counterpoint: If they list him as dead, he'll come back from the dead to fuck up their records. He's a creation of the collective faith of the Administratum. He has the patronage of a daemonette that's been trying to seduce him for most of his career, it's not beyond the pail that he could return from the dead via warp fuckery. Think of it like this: Ciaphas Cain is an "In Emergency, Break Glass" sort of situation. If there's nothing else left to try, you list him as dead and suddenly he'll burst out of the Eye of Terror with Abaddon's severed head while being chased by a billion necrons. --Piroko (talk) 14:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Cain is not a natural perpetual, not is he an artificial one created by warp shenanigans. He's not an artificial creation of the Administratum either, he was a flesh and blood character, and as mortal as they come. Potential for hijinks does not make hima perpetual, it just makes him lucky. --Alumno Alumno (talk) 14:58, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- There is no blind luck in warhammer, you have at least two gods (Tzeentch and Cegorach) who's entire deal is fucking with fate and probability. --Piroko (talk) 15:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- That's debatable, but even if it was true, that would still not make Cain a perpetual by any means. --Alumno Alumno (talk) 15:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)