Talk:Raider

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Hello, I am proposing the following changes to this article. I believe that these changes will improve the quality of the article, trim unnecessary word count, and remove redundant references. It is my hope that these changes are sensible and reasonable, so I look forward to your feedback.

Raider

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TO THE LOCAL IMPERIUM FAST FOOD DELI RESTAURANT BOYS! AND NO! WE AREN'T GOING TO BUY EMPEROR BURGERS! Fast and sleek, the Raider is used by the Dark Eldar to set upon their prey without warning.

Reason for change: Humor is hard, apparently. Let's try grimdark instead.

The Raider is the primary Dark Eldar troop transport akin to a Rhino that is used as the main form of a Dark Eldar raid and is the most common component of Dark Eldar raiding parties. It also looks like a mini flying Chinese Junk with more spiky bits thrown in. Like the Rhino, Raiders are the most favored vehicles of the Dark Eldar and are in use across the galaxy. Unfortunately like most DE vehicles, they have the armor consistency of wet cardboard so you gotta go fast. Lightweight and extremely maneuverable, the Raider epitomizes the Dark Eldar's belief that velocity always triumphs over durability which when it comes to think about it, is actually quite reasonable since if they can't hit you they can't hurt you doctrine of speed over durability. It was a design philosophy that was used a bit in real life for tanks when it was assumed that if you got hit: you were going to get penetrated, ergo the best way to survive was 'don't get hit'. That said all vehicles that tried this IRL had enough armor to ensure that small arms could not harm them. It's the defensive equivalent of being a panda, over specialization which means your good at one thing, while being rubbish everywhere else. Though since these things are actually specialist transports due to the Dark Eldar are meant to excel at hitting fast and hard, it is somewhat more reasonable trade off. The Raider provides a raiding party with exceptional speed and some extra firepower, but it does not excel if forced to perform as anything but a fast strike transport.

Reason for change: In the first sentence the Raider is for some reason described as the main Dark Eldar transport twice. Then a following sentence describes it as the main DE transport again. This is excessive; once will do. Comparison to the Rhino is not very apt, since the two vehicles share very few qualities other than troop capacity. As for the rest, I don't believe that this article is really the place for a thesis on late 1960's tank design. Comparison to a real-life animal also seems clumsy and out of place here.

Overview[edit]

Unlike the lumbering vehicles of the human Imperium, a Raider does not carry its passengers within heavily armored Ceramite shells. Instead, these skimmers are twisted imitations of the gliding, anti-gravity pleasure yachts once common on the homeworlds of the ancient Eldar empire, modified to enhance their speed and fitted with blade-sharp fins and jagged keels to slice apart any foes. Unfortunately like a certain Gorgon, the grossly unprotected Eldar means that if faced against a particularly shooty enemy or one that base their entire army of ludicrous firepower the Raider along with its passengers is going to get shanked. Its best used against melee oriented armies like Orks, Tyranids or SPESS MEHREENS. But then again you could argue the exact opposite, as against ranged you want a means to get into melee faster and (somewhat) safer, and against melee you could spend the points on more firepower instead. So there's always pros and cons to bringing them. Whether you are facing melee units or a shooty army from hell, the Raider ensures that you can swiftly deliver your army's power to critical points on the battlefield. Unfortunately the light, open-topped construction of these vehicles means that Raiders can get quickly shanked by enemy firepower if they are not properly deployed.

Reason for change: Again, an odd choice is made to compare the Raider to an Imperial vehicle with which it shares no common elements. This seems unnecessary. The rest of the commentary just meanders without adding much, so I propose omitting it.

The primary motive power for a Raider comes from its compact, air-breathing jet turbine engines. The transport is held aloft by anti-gravity emitters built into the vehicle's ventral ribbing. This technology allows a Raider to skim even the most rugged terrain at an extraordinarily rapid speed. All Raiders are adorned with the severed body parts of past victims which ironically resembles more like the forces of Chaos the sworn enemies of the Eldar. severed body parts of past victims which further enhances the aesthetic of a vehicle that is being used by merciless raiders. All Raiders have certain basic features and weaponry in common, including a repulsor keelblade manned by a talented steersman, Aethersails (Those sail like constructs that resemble Chinese Junks) to harness the multidimensional shear energies that flow from the Webway portal from which they emerge and a prow-mounted heavy weapon, usually a Dark Lance or a Disintegrator. The curved hull of every Raider possess sweeping fairings and its metal deck is pierced through with tessellating designs intended to lessen the skimmer's weight and increase its speed. Secondary armaments include Sickle-blades, Electroshock Rams and Splinter Rifle racks.

Reason for change: Heads on spikes don't equal Chaos. DE have nothing to do with Khorne. The resemblance to a Junk was already mentioned earlier, so it is redundant here. Not sure why the Disintegrator wasn't mentioned as an option, so added that in.

The Raider primary function as mentioned is to act as a troop transport during a realspace raid and it has a passenger capacity of 10 Dark Eldar warriors of various types, whether they are drawn from a Kabal, a Wych Cult, a Haemonculi Coven or from one of the various mercenary Dark Eldar groups of the Dark City. Once the foe has been vanquished, any enemy survivors are lashed or chained to the Raider or even simply impaled, still living, upon its trophy hooks. enemy survivors are lashed, chained, or simply impaled (still living) upon the Raider's trophy hooks.

Reason for change: This is about the 4th time this article mentions that the Raider is the main DE transport. Such redundancy is not necessary.

  • The changes are fine. The only thing I would like to add is to have some humor, quips, jabs and/or sarcasm in the article if possible. This is to differentiate us from Lexicanum or the 40k wikia. But other than that, the edits are pretty good IMO. Derpysaurus (talk) 04:11, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Derpy. That's a great point. I'll work on that. If you have anything you'd like to add specifically, please do. :) --Cavgunner (talk) 05:14, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Would anyone else like to add anything? --Cavgunner (talk) 00:05, 25 December 2019 (UTC)