Talk:Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Deathwatch(8E)

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Cross-Codex Compatability[edit]

We unfortunately cannot use the points from Codex: Space Marines:

If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army?

You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/codexes-your-questions-answered-july-5gw-homepage-post-2/

One in a Thousand[edit]

There are 1000 marine chapters (about) and 1000 Deathwatch (about) so the 1/1000 sounds true. However, two very important distinctions. First, the appointment is generally temporary, so most chapters that contribute to the Deathwatch have several Deathwatch veterans amount their numbers and are therefore below 1/1000 per. Secondly, the Deathwatch doesn't take the best of the best of the best; if it did it would be all chapter masters. It takes competent specialists who have had first-hand field experience against xenos and which the parent chapter can spare. They are veterans at best, which each chapter has 100-200 of. Deathwatch are certainly elite, but they're just not the 1:1000 claimed.

This is not all about being best of the best, besides being a capable fighter you also have to have a degree of open-mindness, respect for other cultures and ability to work as a team with people you have almost nothing in common. In grim darkness of 40k these qualities are rarer than tactical brilliance or exceptional skill with the chainsword or bolter. Not all who serve in Deathwatch are really suitable for it.--Flutist (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough, perhaps, but not what's being said. The line immediately before it is "Deathwatch go to war en masse, there is no alien in the expanse of the galaxy that they cannot overcome." Which is more "wez da best" than "we respect cultures well." Aside from sounding stilted and hacknied, and being factually dubious at best, it also competes with the Custodians and Grey Knights for which space marine is "the most elite" and isn't needed in their narrative here.

That bit is actually a misquote. This is the original:

"Amongst a hundred men, there may be none fit for the Adeptus Astartes. Amongst a hundred Space Marines, there may be one fit for the Deathwatch." - Watch Captain Brand MacLir

Any further quibbling? --Newerfag (talk) 20:28, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Why is this not relevant?[edit]

  • Corvus Blackstar Is a Flyer so look there for the tactics. IT DOES NOT HAVE THE DEDICATED TRANSPORT BATTLEFIELD ROLE
    • In short its transport capacity is 12 power armour models jump and terminator count for 2 and bikers for 3. Yes this is the only transport that can transport imperium bikers. NO PRIMARIS Because GW!

BibiFloris (talk) 16:03, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Deathwatch: A Stratagem For Every Enemy[edit]

"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be put at risk even in a hundred battles." Theoretically, Deathwatch members adapt their load-out and tactics according to the xenos they will face. The problem is I (and I hope I am not alone) always had difficulties to understand the strategy of all those xenos army. If some oldfag could provide intels about ways to defeat them (in tactics section), it would be really helpful! --Gilten (talk) 07:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)