User talk:AssistantWikifag/2014

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Old conversations from the year 2014.

Another Defacing Idiot 2014[edit]

I have encountered some vandals in the A.I. Quest discussion page with the http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/96.125.50.27 and http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/96.125.49.157 tags. Is there anything that can be done about them? i am still new to 1d4chan, so i hope i am at the right place to ask about this. --70.188.30.231

Blocked him/them for a day. To be clear: I don't mind (and don't much care) that they don't like what you write. However, editing somebody else's talk-page posts is over the line.
Finally, you can sign your messages with the date and time as well as your username by using four tildes (~~~~). I (and many others on this wiki) also like to put two dashes in front of the signature to set it apart from the rest of my post, but that's a style choice. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 00:01, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Trip Into Hell[edit]

So, that you for trying to restore the trip in hell page, but they're at it again. - Gundamguy

I wouldn't say "they" since it was only 122.61.192.20. The guy's made productive edits elsewhere; I hope he swats the bee in his bonnet and either accepts Trip Into Hell's existence or more clearly explains his objections. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 17:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Looking at his previous edits to that page (before he started blanking it), he claims that he had a part in writing it and didn't like the ending. The former is completely unprovable, and the latter simply means that his actions can be chalked up to "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE, GAIZ!".--Newerfag (talk) 20:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Since my ban has lapsed, allow me to explain myself and the reasoning for wanting that story removed. I’ve had contact with the original author, and in fact helped him out from time to time with other projects, and I know that he’s deeply ashamed and loathing of the story that he wrote. It’s caused nothing but misery, not only for himself but also for the other writefags who used to work with him, who have had to deal with the backlashes caused by this story and in one case the massive dislike one has for the story. The story has even driven him to a mental breakdown. He’s gone on record as wanting this story removed, and has already deleted every copy he could get his hands on. So I decided that for his peace of mind, and so the other authors would not have to deal with this story anymore and the endless arguments, fighting and issues over it I elected to have it put on the deletion list. If you want conformation on the self-hate, breakdowns and loathing the author has for this story and the misery it has caused him and those who associated with him, you can ask the other writers, Someone Else and ILikeCommas. They’d say the same thing I have. This story is poorly written, has caused massive issues with other authors trying to write within the setting and is better off removed and deleted so they can write PD fanfiction without having to be forced into fighting with the author of this story over his characters and story. I do hope you will see why this is necessary and go through with deleting this piece of work. --122.61.192.20 22:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

If Ahriman's Aide has a problem with Trip Into Hell, he can put up the delete template himself. If he has forgotten his password, he can email Wikifag about resetting it (I don't have the permissions to execute such a request). --AssistantWikifag (talk) 06:12, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Why hasn't the page been deleted yet? The OP put his request in for its removal, and yet nothing has happened.
As I said on his talk page, the way he phrased the message gives me the impression that he thinks I have something against the page, when I don't at all. I want to be sure that he wants it gone for himself, if that makes sense.
Part of this is probably my natural inclusionist instinct. You may have noticed that there are a lot of pages in the "deletion" category that I haven't deleted. When I delete a page, I feel like I'm sending a message: "We, the entirety of 1d4chan, don't want this page, and we don't want pages like it." That's something that I'm very hesitant to do, unless it's something with tremendous consensus against it, like spam, or the author personally requests it (as with various old campaign articles that GMs put up for deletion -- the reason I don't delete all of those at once is because I'd rather the "tone" of the recent changes stay focused on editing and contributing, not deleting, and because they don't cause any harm while they're here, unlike spam).
Am I making sense, or should I just stop worrying and hit the delete button? --AssistantWikifag (talk) 05:12, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Would this be considered spamming?[edit]

I noticed earlier that one of the users (User:Malak) here was putting up an external link to his EBay account with the intent of advertising on his user page. While I have noticed he has made a couple of other edits to other pages and removed the offending link for a short time when I noted that he might be mistaken as a spambot on his talk page (which makes it unlikely that he is a spambot), I do not wish to force a needless confrontation with him if he is in fact a legitimate user. What would be the best course of action be in this situation?--Newerfag (talk) 03:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

An eBay store with 40K models for sale is not exactly "unrelated". I would have said that I'd feel better about him advertising his store on this wiki by buying an ad, but he's done just that. I think that, by keeping the link on his user page or in an ad, there's no endorsement implied (it's "his" page, leading to his store). If he had, say, linked to his sale of Centurions from the bottom of the Centurion page, I'd have considered that over the line, but he didn't, so I'm not concerned at this time. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 17:56, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
That makes sense- I didn't realize that ad for cheap 40k models was him until now. Thanks for clearing that up.--Newerfag (talk) 18:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Articles under assault[edit]

Assistantwikifag, I let wikifag know but i was hoping you would be able to help if he was unavailable. An unregistered user has been vandalising Games Workshop and Minorities in the Imperium of Man, motivated by some desire to remove all mention of race and racism from the articles. He deleted a lot of content unnecessarily so I reserved it but he has reserved it himself and seems ready to make an edit war of it, which of course I don't want it to turn into. I was hoping you could advise what to do about this? - Alorend, 00:03 28 January 2014

I've blocked him for a few days to let him cool off. I suspect he's most interested in causing trouble, but if he has an objection to the Minorities in the Imperium of Man article, he should explain it on its talk page. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 03:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
And he's back with a different IP address doing exactly the same shit that got him blocked earlier. He's either a troll who's too dumb to quit or a castoff from /pol/, and either way I doubt he's going to stop willingly. Maybe he's just a racist?--Newerfag (talk) 19:02, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
I blocked that address (a little longer than the first) and protected the page for what I hope is long enough for him to lose interest.
Funnily enough, his most recent IP address is located in Israel. gb2/pol/ indeed. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 20:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Amazingly, he still hasn't learned a thing. I just caught him vandalizing the Games Workshop article again with a third IP address. He could be using a proxy or a dynamic IP to bypass the blocks- nothing else makes sense.--Newerfag (talk) 00:28, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Question about Fanfiction/Codices[edit]

I've been reading 1d4chan and had a chance to read stories based on games and such (amusing stuff). Also been reading fluff in regards to WH40K (I like it). My question is: is writing not based on anything existing allowed to be posted here? Does it have to be based on existing games/writing/movies, etc?

Thanks.

Derka Der (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

The way I see it, it's not really my job to curate content -- I only delete things that other people mark for deletion (obvious spam aside -- I'll delete that on my own initiative if I catch it) -- so you shouldn't be asking me this question at all. Arguably, you shouldn't really ask the question to anyone -- if people think something shouldn't be here, they'll let you know directly.
That said, in terms of what content is acceptable, this wiki is meant for things that are /tg/ related, which in the broadest sense means "things that /tg/ finds interesting". This is not limited to only tabletop games -- see HFY as an example of work that originates on /tg/ without being derived from any particular work that already exists.
Short answer: go ahead and put it up. You might put it up on /tg/ first to get some eyeballs on it before archiving it here, as that's the usual pattern, but nobody's going to stop you from making the page here first if you want. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 23:47, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
If I might chime in, I might note that putting your real name on the page you made and your E-mail address on your userpage is not a good idea for quite a few reasons. If I were you, I'd suggest removing that kind of sensitive information, if only as a safety precaution. Spambots do tend to show up here every now and then and I'd hate to see them harvest your e-mail address or something like that. --Newerfag (talk) 02:34, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Point taken. Thanks for the response.

Derka Der (talk) 12:58, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Board Games page under constant vandalism[edit]

Hey AssistantWikifag, how can you deal with the constant Spammers that has been constantly deleting pages related to Boardgames? Even though you have blocked a number of them, it seems that more clones are still popping up trying to violate the page. This is the IP of the reported SPAMbot----> 46.119.117.208, hope that helps.Derpysaurus

Got them both. Thanks for the heads-up. I'm not going to protect the board-tans page, since that only got hit once and it's changed relatively recently anyway, but that might change.
Unfortunately, this latest batch of spambots isn't trying to add links or create pages, so they don't trip the challenge questions. Fortunately, they also seem to have a very narrow set of interests. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 16:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Spammers are now targeting other unexpected pages and violating users account pages[edit]

Derpysaurus here again, now the Spambots are targeting pages we do not usually see much violation from, such as the Chaos Pretty Marines. Furthermore these spambots are now targeting user pages now such as Indonesian gentleman, which as we all know, is illegal in this wiki. Here is the IP for one of the Spambots I digged out----> 178.137.160.124 . Hope that helps bring in the Banhammer.

It was that one bot that did both, actually. I'll probably see these when I look through the list of recent edits (they are helpful enough to leave odd text strings in the edit reasons, and you all usually add "undoing spam" or whatever to the edit summary when you undo their work), but thanks for the heads-up.

Yeah I am back again with a new Spambot, this time he is plagiarizing the My Little Pony page. Here is his IP number-----> 203.98.92.94 ,. Hope that helps. Derpysaurus

"Plagiarizing" refers to copying content without crediting it to the original creator, and "spambots" are automated users that add spam content to pages (usually links to sites that sell dodgy things). 203.98.92.94 is neither; what 203 did is properly called "vandalism".
I suspect that 203 is, like other users before him (My Little Pony is one of the pages I keep a closer eye on since it's been vandalized before), simply expressing his frustration that /tg/ likes things that he doesn't like (well, maybe /tg/ doesn't like My Little Pony for the most part, but they certainly think enough about it to make an article about it here). If he persists, I might block him for a few days to give him time to cool off, but otherwise, it's not possible for a regular user to actually remove information from the wiki, and someone has already undone his edit, so I'm not inclined to block him at the moment. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 16:34, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

accidentally uploaded a copyrighted pic[edit]

hi, i accidentally uploaded a copyrighted pic. could you delete it for me? [deleted -- AssistantWikifag (talk)] thnx --Kapow (talk) 02:04, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Done. For future reference, if you want me to delete anything else, just put the {{deletion}} tag on it (though asking on my talk page will certainly get me to respond more promptly). --AssistantWikifag (talk) 01:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

99.246.64.46[edit]

The user for that IP has gone back to vandalizing the Bioware page again after his ban expired. Perhaps you should consider protecting the page and/or giving him a longer ban? (I would suggest the latter, as I have also seen him leaving threatening messages on other users' talk pages.)--Newerfag (talk) 23:14, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

So This Is Where The Heretics Reside?[edit]

It appears that User:Dtortor attempted to recreate the deleted page "So This Is Where The Heretics Reside?" [since deleted --AssistantWikifag (talk) 14:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)] and does not seem to understand why it was deleted in the first place (if his peculiar comments the talk page is any indication). Would you kindly explain to him the rationale for its deletion on his talk page or the article's talk page? He does not seem willing to listen to reason so far, and while I assume it is frowned upon to recreate a deleted page I think he might calm down if you made it clear to him why it was deleted.--Newerfag (talk) 21:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

  • Recently, the above user has begun to post insults directed towards me in the talk page of the disputed article. While I would like to believe that I have been quite reasonable towards him thus far, the fact that he believes that the page should have been "replaced" after you deleted it is itself a sign that he is unwilling to make constructive edits to the wiki. I am currently at a loss for what to do about this situation for the time being and do not wish to see this dispute escalate any further, but I have no reason to believe that he will be willing to engage in a civil discussion at this point in time.--Newerfag (talk) 21:48, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

37.115.184.222[edit]

Blanked the board-tans page, so I restored it. That is all.

108.206.68.211[edit]

Apparently this Butthurt bot has been plagiarizing my old fan-fluff The Glassing of Djangoris Alpha IV, without any of my permission nor notice to prior hand, and just deleting a massive amount of content and then replaced it with "Humanity Fuck Yeah!" Wank and 19 Megajoule Lasgun bullshit. All because I was in a relatively pointless and petty debate with Erebus Kain over Carapace armor/Mjolnir armor comparison. Right now he is being an annoyance and irritant. What can you do with him/her/it? Can you protect this page and anything related just in case?Derpysaurus

UPDATE: And apparently his calling me a troll and constantly deleting the fan page after I called him out that his edits are not acceptable, he is accusing me of not doing any calculations (What calcs, I have no idea) and re-igniting a stupid edit war that I tried to avoid via deleting the debate in the first place. Can you backhand this uncompromising, butthurt idiot who is jerking off his WH40K cock so much and throwing out language in which I have to respond back equally; to the extant that I am absolutely embarrassed that he likes the same subject as me? Since I tried to calm things down and compromising the pointless issue initially, and then he started these abominable edits because some people don't agree with his bullshit.Derpysaurus

MORE UPDATE!: As you can see, his editing skills are reminiscent of trolling, I kept most of my cool here but apparently, our poor little bot is getting all pissy and upset over a fanfic. He is still asking me to prove calcs (Which I have no idea what calcs he is asking me) despite the fact that the only thing he got was the 19 Megajoule Lasgun bullshit in which I tore down due to the absurdity and contradiction if it were true. He still have the hubris to call me a no-life or fanboy despite him having a massive rage boner over as something as petty as a cross-over. Can you hurry up and maybe ban this irritating maggot to teach him a lesson here?Derpysaurus

-199.126.52.169 19:18, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

  • Derpy, I hate to sound like a hypocrite, but I think the best solution here is the one one you might like the least- just take the story off of 1d4chan. I'm sure you put a ton of work into it, but if it's attracted someone this persistent in vandalizing it then it may not be worth keeping up in the first place. As far as I can tell, whatever problems he's supposedly causing are between you and him, and AssistantWikifag isn't likely to ban someone just because they have a grudge against you. (Plus, if he's an anonymous IP he could just go and reset his router to evade the ban. It's been done before quite a few times.) For now, I suggest transferring what you've written to a seperate site (I suggest pastebin), placing the delete template up on the page, and waiting at least a couple of weeks before putting it all up again. The anon will likely be appeased by this and move on, and you can restore it like nothing happened. --Newerfag (talk) 06:00, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, this stupid edit war was created over a stupid Lasgun calcs, apparently this page is a battle ground over this pointless and immature debate. I don't think it has to do with the contents of the page but what I stated that Lasguns are 16KJ, but unfortunately this bot has de-evolved himself into a nonsensical troll over Lasguns. I'm not sure whether he is actually trolling or being serious, but his actions are essentially breaking almost every rule in this sight, he does not want to compromise nor let it go and is just there to wank the ever loving shit out of Lasguns. This is why I am tempted in the banning of his IP, since he is non-cooperative, rude, butthurt, can't edit for shit and all around pathetic and he is just using this fanpage as nothing more then a placeholder for a pretty stupid debate. Derpysaurus

Aaaannnnddd....its confirmed, this bot is a troll. Derpysaurus

  • All the more reason to remove the page for the time being. With nobody to debate with, he'll get bored and leave on his own. Every snippy edit summary you make just provokes him further, but deny him his soapbox and he'll go away. --Newerfag (talk) 06:42, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately he is spreading and vandalizing other people's talk pages. Yeaahhhh...I don't think my fanfic is now the main target here. Even if I deleted the fanfic, I bet he would most likely come back so can anyone use the Banhammer now?Derpysaurus
    • I disagree- his own comments suggest his behavior is directed exclusively at you. Incidentally, it may be possible that he and Erebus Kain are the same person, as this anon appeared shortly after your disagreement with him. I still suggest trying to take it down for a while, if only as a precaution against further vandalism until you can be assured of its safety. --Newerfag (talk) 06:59, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
      • It's not me, but I personally know him. - Erebus Kain.
  • Of course I know he is directed at me, but what I'm trying to say is that he is going to other people's talk pages to escalate the situation. Also, everyone knows its not you Erebus Kain, you were a pretty cool guy to debate with until that raging anon came, don't worry, I consider you cool. :) Derpysaurus
  • And he's back, doing exactly the same shit. Best permaban him, since he learned nothing from the first ban. Erebus, if you know this guy could you please tell him to let it go?--Newerfag (talk) 00:01, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Yah, I came over to let you know as well.
Sorry for not being on the wiki to catch this user "in the act". I'm forgoing blocking him for the time being since he seems to have lost interest (and so blocking him now would be a bit like closing the barn door after the cows leave), but I've put your page on my watchlist, so if he messes with it again, I'll see it more quickly. --AssistantWikifag (talk) 15:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

109.228.22.219[edit]

Looks like we have a fella blanking out the work on Dranon's Delight. Don't believe he's from Tumblr, but probably your garden variety troll.--Boss Ballkrusha (talk) 21:01, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Harem of Chaos edit war going out of control[edit]

I'm doing my best to revert vandal edits on the page, but it's happening too quickly for me and I can't keep it up forever. Given that the original author has said he doesn't care what happens to the page now, it would be wise to just delete the page and permanently block the vandals. The sheer persistence they've displayed so far gives me the impression that they will not stop under any circumstances unless they have no other alternatives, and at this point the history is so cluttered with vandal edits that there's hardly anything left to salvage of the original page. I have the feeling that the vandal may be using multiple IPs, as some of the vandal edits have come from IPs that have not touched any other part of the wiki.--Newerfag (talk) 00:52, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

  • By looking back at the edit history, the Vandal bot is indeed using multiple IP's to continue with his failed attempt at trolling. We should probably just delete the page as you said and possibly ban all the past IP's the bot has been using to hide behind, just in case if he comes back on the previous IP's. Derpysaurus
  • If it was a bot it would have left something in Chinese or Russian, and it certainly wouldn't be smart enough to keep reverting the page after I undo its edits. It's definitely a human with a bee in his bonnet. (I've been on 4chan long enough to know what trolling is, and I can see that he's not trolling anybody but himself.)--Newerfag (talk) 06:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

More problems[edit]

While I have personally noted that Nlstrong's contributions were of questionable quality in the past, but recently he has begun vandalizing the (admittedly poor) Jews article with rants decrying anti-semitism, posting copyrighted content directly from books, and advertising the games he has made himself within articles. Would you be kind enough to go and smack some sense into him? He doesn't seem to be willing to listen to other users, and I do not believe he will stop on his own.--Newerfag (talk) 01:06, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Copyright woes[edit]

Hello,

I'm an artist, and on of the clients I work for is Hasbro, who creates Magic: the Gathering. Once upon a time, I did a bit of my own fan-art of two of the characters I've helped make popular, and it has since plagued me to no end. The image on this page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Chandra_and_Liliana.jpg is my work, and permissions have never been given to anyone to use it. Yet it gets used, on bootleg merchandise and all sorts of things. And every time it does, I have legal troubles requiring my time and money. So beyond simply stealing the work to turn a quick buck, they're literally costing me directly by using it.

I'm trying to get as many instances of the image removed as I can. I know, I know: it's the internet. But I've got to do what I can to at least slow these people down.

Can you please, please, remove this image from the wiki?

Thank you so much,

Steve Argyle

Done. Given that it is relevant to the articles in which it is (was) used, is it available on a site of yours for us to link to? --AssistantWikifag (talk) 02:20, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Unfortunately, I myself am also under an order to keep the image off my site. Thanks again.

Jews- why do we even have this article?[edit]

The Jews article may be better written now compared to what it was before, but its relevance to this wiki is still nominal at best, and at worst it's a flamewar waiting to happen or an open invitation for vandals to fill it with antisemitic screeds. Additionally, I have yet to see a single thread on /tg/ that has ever seriously mentioned Jews in regards to making them a playable race/class, and the stat block that was originally made for the page doesn't seem to have been made on /tg/ at all. At the very least, I would like it if you made some kind of statement as to whether or not its continued existence is justified or not. --Newerfag (talk) 20:37, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

"Why do we have this article?" Because somebody cared enough to create it.
Regarding the Jews page specifically (which I see was deleted way back in 2009, before being recreated in 2013), maybe somebody on /tg/ (most likely in jest) suggested generating a stat block for them a while ago, and only once. Or some /tg/ user made it for fun and put it up here instead of posting it on /tg/ first (which is not how I would have done it -- I'd rather put something up on /tg/ for discussion and then archive it here -- but that's hardly enough to delete a page over). I see somebody on Talk:Jews asking if we are "the History Wiki", but there is a heavy basis of many RPGs and settings in history. I wouldn't have thought we needed an article specifically about swords, but then I just saw a thread where someone demonstrated iron smelting and then talked about how that iron could be worked into nails, swords, and other things, to great interest from other fa/tg/uys. The list of "things that (some portion of) /tg/ finds relevant" is not small.
I feel like we've had this conversation before, and maybe we just have different ideas about how the wiki ought to be administrated. I don't see it as my place to make calls on whether a page's existence is justified or not, since it is (it ought to be) the users who decide if a page ought to be deleted, and then they flag it for me to perform the actual deleting function. However, since you've asked for a personal statement, I'm what Wikipedia calls an "inclusionist"; even if a page is substandard, I'd rather leave it here so that someone can improve it. If a page is marked by flame wars or spamming, I can protect it until the vandals lose interest. We're not running out of disk space, and I assume that Wikifag would say something if we were -- he does come through now and then to update MediaWiki if for no other reason, so I assume he checks then.
I'm also slow to delete pages in general because I think that it is better that the majority of the edits visible in the "recent changes" section at any time are page creation and editing, rather than the admins deleting stuff. It's a little detail, but when I go to a wiki for the first time it's the first thing I check to get a feel for the "tone" and health of the wiki.
I get that you think the page ought to go, but looking at its talk page (and on other talk pages of articles you have nominated for deletion), I don't think you have consensus on your side. (I could also envision deleting the page if having it would cause actual trouble for the wiki, but that doesn't seem to be the case either.)
What do you think? --AssistantWikifag (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2014 (UTC)