User talk:Crazy Cryptek

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Just curious, what's the broken Russian translation of Götterdämmerung Muss Fliegen song does on your page?Mezmerro (talk) 10:21, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Crazy Cryptek (talk) 12:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)Just faux Russian. Pay it no heed. Who's the douche going around vandalizing our pages anyway?

I wrote a mini-thing about Darths and Droids on the Star Wars page. Just directin'. --SpectralTime (talk) 03:28, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Yo, Derpysaurus here. Just found out that Commissar Woods (His Special:Contributions/Commissar Woods) is trying to bait/flame you over the Sentinel page. Told him to back off and put his issue on the discussion page. Just a heads up. I don't want this to degenerate into a pissing contest. If he continues to childishly flame either you or me without a good explanation. Then I believe it will be appropriate to report him to either AssistantWikifag or Wikifag. Derpysaurus

Why am I even the one getting flamed? I didn't delete the Juggernaut reference. If you're going to flame somebody make sure you aim your flamethrower god damn it. Crazy Cryptek (talk) 19:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

On Custodes[edit]

"-after all a Chapter Master would probably be able to defeat multiple bog standard basic bitch Custodes."

You sure about that? Because we're talking about a group who took on swordmasters who had linked minds so that they could move, attack and defend all with one purpose and outnumbered the Custodes, and they were cut down to a man while very few Custodes went down and even fewer than those died. This is also the same group where one of them was able to take on 30 of these dudes and came out just wounded. Unless the Custodes are the variants that aren't meant or armed for direct combat (and in Throneworld these most certainly were the ones meant for direct combat) the Chapter Masters would be as fucked in the lore as they would be on the tabletop in 7th edition if they faced off against "multiple bog standard basic bitch Custodes." Killing one or two each? Sure, the best of Marines have been able to beat a Custodes in a one-on-one fight so I see no reason why a Shadowseer/Death Jester can't do as well if not slightly better, but having a Shadowseer and Death Jester kill a dozen would be like a Chapter Master walking in and killing 4 bloodthirsters in seconds, and there's no reason to not call bullshit on it.

For the record I'm not saying the Custodes are invincible by any means, I'm simply saying the body count the two rack up is absurd given how powerful the Custodes are (right up there with Calgar killing An'ggrath). When the article says that a Space Marine might as well be a Guardsman compared to a Custodes it's not a joke. It's just another stupid event that happened in a really shitty series. -- Triacom (talk) 08:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

  • I'm mostly going off how well equipped Chapter Master would probably be able to take on more than a few Custodes before going down on the tabletop, which while not the gospel truth of power levels I feel at least gives a good idea of where everything is relative to each other. Someone like Asterion Moloc or Marneus Calgar would definitely be able to handle at least five bog standard basic Custodes. And if the Shadowseer and Deathjester were Phoenix Lord level they'd probably be able to handle dozens, the former more so than the latter due to being able to cast spells which the Custodes don't have any inherent defence against. Of course if there's no indication that we were dealing with a pinnacle of the Eldar species like Eldrad or the Phoenix Lords then my objection is withdrawn. It's also worth noting that the Chaos Lord of the Lords of Decay could kill a whole squad of Custodes on Pluto after vomiting their squad leader in half with acid before the Grey Knights put him down. Crazy Cryptek (talk) 09:10, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Again, you sure about that? Because a Chapter Master against 4 Custodes on the tabletop is a dead Chapter Master. Marneus Calgar and Asterion Moloc also go down like bitches to 4 Custodes. By the way, in Moloc's case (as well as most Chapter Masters) he doesn't even deal a single wound before dying whereas Calgar dies after causing barely over a quarter of a wound. As for the Shadowseer and Death Jester, they're not on the level of Phoenix Lords, if they were close then Phoenix Lords wouldn't be considered so above and beyond their contemporaries. Shadowseers and Death Jesters aren't even on the same level as Solitaires, who are still below Phoenix Lords in terms of accomplishments and abilities.
Also I've no doubt Phoenix Lords could've killed that many (although saying dozens, as in 24+ is very questionable seeing as how Custodes, and especially Shield Captains basically have all the advantages Phoenix Lords have). Custodes also do have an inherent defence against spells, that's why they all had Adamantium Will. Granted it's not as good as if they were Psykers, but let's not pretend as if they're helpless. -- Triacom (talk) 09:28, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Out of curiosity I decided to do some more math, Calgar gets himself killed in a fight against only two Custodian Guards (they don't even have to be Shield-captains), not even managing to kill one before he goes down. If Moloc is up against two Custodes and neither of them are Shield-captains then he kills one of them before he dies. If one of them is a Shield-captain, then he dies before being able to kill either. -- Triacom (talk) 11:42, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
I understand your point, and even agree with it, but I'm not sure if tabletop mathhammer is good evidence for the fluff. -- Kracked Mynd 14:42, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
It's not, in the fluff Custodes are far more powerful. As I mentioned earlier, 30 swordmasters who had linked minds so that they could all attack, defend and move as one unit attacked Constantin Valdor, the (at the time) head of the Custodes, and he killed them all. On the tabletop that many would easily overwhelm him. In any case, like I said earlier we do see the Custodes fight against Marines in the Burning of Prospero, and the K/D ratio is weighted so heavily in favour of the Custodes that it broke the scale, even when they were outnumbered to a ridiculous degree. -- Triacom (talk) 23:30, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
So I suppose is how the hell did the Chaos Lord Festernius manage to kill ten Custodes on Pluto when Typhus decided to attack Sol but got iced by one Grey Knight.Crazy Cryptek (talk) 23:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Because he puked on him/them (Nurgle vomit, which melted him) and he took them on in an already heavily poisoned environment. The Grey Knight on the other hand didn't get close enough to be puked on with Nurgle vomit, and killed him with a Psychic Blast from afar, which was meant to rip him apart and extinguish any diseases he had.
If you notice, my points are all about the Custodes being incredibly powerful in conventional combat (shooting and close quarters fighting). Festernius managed to deal with them by basically having an easy win button that let him avoid engaging the Custodes entirely in a normal fight, and he got fucked when that advantage was taken away from him. The Shadowseer/Death Jester however don't have means like that for avoiding a conventional fight with the Custodes, neither do Chapter Masters, which is why when something like that comes up it's good to call bullshit on it. -- Triacom (talk) 23:51, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Also including their Custodes leading the group, there were 7 Custodes, not 10. The fight might also be more than a little biased as it was recorded by Typhus (who didn't even witness the fight), and even he recorded it as "rumour has it..." rather than document it factually. -- Triacom (talk) 23:54, 17 October 2018 (UTC)