User talk:Derpysaurus

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Hi, regarding my Cegorach edit: UA is a pretty good and fluff-accurate mod, so I thought Cegorach deserved a special mention given that a) the model is amazing and b) it is actually possible to get him in a videogame, regardless of mods. I understand your reasons for undoing the edit though, so I don't want to start an edit war. I do feel like this should be mentioned at some point in the article though.--Imulsion (talk)

  • I guess you can create a sub-section putting it in, lets say "Appearance in mods or other fan-made materials". Derpysaurus

Hey, just so you know why I was messing with some of your Dark Eldar pages. I started out just correcting your grammar/spelling errors but then I noticed a few of them had some weird structure problems. For example, in your Wracks page you start off talking about it being gross that DE become Wracks willingly in the first paragraph which is great because it totally is but then you start talking about it again halfway through the second one as if you forgot that you already did. Then there's the fact that in more than half your pages you end up laying into GW for some of the most seriously petty reasons I've ever seen ("this sci-fi gun does a weird thing", "this model made 17 and a half years ago isn't as fapworthy as I would like" etc). Don't get me wrong, I love ragging on GeeDubs as much as the next guy when appropriate but, in the pages I changed, it just seemed like you weren't being very classy about it. Anyway, beyond maybe some more minor proofreading I'll leave your pages alone from now on. Just thought I owed you an explanation. --- 16:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Thank you very much for your thought in this. I appreciate your reasoning behind the change and I will try and later streamline the Wracks page. You critique is well considered. Again, thank you for your thought in this.Derpysaurus

Look, as cool as it is you're making halo stuff... Seeing as it's only mildly related, would you mind merging all the covenant weapon pages into one page or something? -- 08:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

  • I am right now re-formatting what fits and what not, just give it a while. You can help contribute in that page which I would appreciate. It is a mess really...:P ----->Derpysaurus

Can you just hold off on editing the Halo page for a little while? There is no reason why the page should have the entire backstory of the series so far. Just the bare-bones information and a link to the Halo wiki should be far more than enough for anyone. If you still want to keep it in its original state, use the Setting namespace, which is far more appropriate for the full setting you wish to make it into and will not clutter the Recent Changes log.--Newerfag (talk) 02:09, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

  • I took the liberty of moving the Halo and Covenant pages to Setting:Halo and Setting:Halo/Covenant, respectively. This way they won't interfere with the rest of the wiki and you can continue modifying them as you see fit. I suggest that you do the same with your other Halo-related articles as well.--Newerfag (talk) 02:41, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I appreciate that you moved the fluff into another section. And I understand why you need to move it, in all honesty I won't mind if you did it in order save space. Much appreciation. ---->Derpysaurus
    • No problem. Just mind the article bloating- there is such a thing as having TOO many details.--Newerfag (talk) 14:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
  • No probs.---->Derpysaurus

Well... I thought it was funny but to each their own... I will try to refrain from doing this shit in the future. NO PROMISES THOUGH.----->(that guy who you undo'd)

Since it's been more then a week since I've asked on the discussion page for "The Glassing of Djangoris Alpha IV" on whether I can expand on the information of the Djangoris sector I'm going to ask again here. Can I expand on the description of the Djangoris sector? I think I have some good ideas like using the Halo writers messing up the numbers for the Super Mac and accidentally making it a planet killer as it being adapted by the inquisition as a new method of exterminates and using ambiguity on what machine spirits are to justify there being debates among the Adeptus Mechanicus over whether Djangoris AI are "Abominable Intelligence", a type of Machine spirit or even recreations of the Men of Gold. ilnaij

    • Sure, go ahead! I'm right now very busy since I have exams coming up, the story is yours now. :) Derpysaurus
    • Awesome. I'm officially a Writefag now. The next batch of expansion will be tomorrow. Right now I need to go to bed. I gave each of the planets a nickname that's mostly used by it's inhabitants that comes from Halo canon. The exception is Crassus, a planet from a fanfic called "The Enemy of My Enemy". It's a really good fic. You should read it Derpysaurus. ilniaj

About the Mephet'ran edit[edit]

PERFECT. - Ben (talk) 17:04, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Derpysaurus

Enjoyed your takes on the other Necron pages as well, hope you don't mind me giving them a once over. Sorry for any mistakes. --Pseftis (Contributions) 08:28, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oh that's fine. Feel free to change it as you see fit, just make sure it ends up being readable (minimal use of strikethroughs, proper use of dot points and avoid turning a wiki page into a forum debate). Things like grammar/spelling mistakes and/or broken links are honest minor mistakes which can be fixed by me or other users. Derpysaurus

About the Emperor of Mankind picture edit[edit]

-Heyo, I am the guy who changed the Emp's picture to the classic one at first before you reverted it. Just wanted to state that I have no problem with fan-art whatsoever, but for a new person coming into 40k to get a visualization like that...well don't you think its a tad misleading? Seems a bit noblebright for what the Emps was. What would you think if the primary pic was changed to the Emperor's duel with Horus as that in of itself is pretty iconic? Let me know what you think. Also, unfortunately I haven't registered yet (I will shortly as I frequently make edits on on the Mechanicum tactica page).

  • Hey, thanks for the reply! I think quite a number of us prefer this fanart image because it is a good modern visualization of the Emperor's might and grandiose as well as being consistent with the running gag on the Emperor's fabulous hair which the other image sadly does not. Do take note that 1d4chan is quite light hearted and it is sometimes not meant to be taken seriously but I get what you mean. However whether or not this fan image is 'noblebright' is quite subjective as the Emperor has always been obsessed with gold and bright lights coming out of nowhere, it is in the official artwork and it remains to be the main identifiable trait. Derpysaurus

-- Heya again! That actually sounds really solid and I can't argue with that. Thanks for taking the time to reply =)


I sincerely hope you didn't add the (woo-hoo!) to that. My lungs ache from laughing XD --SaltyMan (talk) 06:03, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

  • Nah. That was another person. But yeah. Liked that Ducktales reference. Derpysaurus

The Banished[edit]

I'll do the crunch as usual. However, wait until 8th edition comes out which won't be long.--Cryptek Szerasp (talk) 23:06, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

The Beast[edit]

Since I don't want to just go back and forth editing stuff I'd rather talk about it here. The Beast didn't manage to succeed in getting the Imperium to sign a treaty, they failed at that and the Imperium proceeded to kick their asses despite not even deploying forces like the Grey Knights and spending more time bickering then working together. The Beasts only did half as well as they did because the Imperium was being stupid, the Imperium of 41st would own them silly between things like Cawl and the Sisters of Silence. Most of the threat of the Beast was just because the Imperium was in a weaker state than ever before. So on those grounds I'd like to undo your removal of my edit please. User:Malignant

  • No, the Imperium did not 'kick' their asses, if anything the Beast manage to make Humanity look like idiots, of all the polities in WH40K, the Beast was the only xenos that was this close in toppling the Imperium as they essentially gate crashed right into Holy Terra and tried to humiliate the Imperium by saying that they are better off if they sign a peace treaty. Any polity that can bring the Imperuim and especially Holy Terra down to its knees via gunpoint is not to be scoffed at, any polity that manage to wipe out a first founding chapter is not to be scoffed at, any polity that can wipe out entire Titan legions with Gargants the size of battleships is not to be scoffed at, any polity that required a Primarch to sacrifice himself to kill the Beast is not to be scoffed at. The War of The Beast highlights just how vulnerable and fragile the Imperium actually is once an actual credible xenos threat presents itself, not even the Tyranid hive fleets can compare. Other users are starting to find out that you to have a certain necessity to downplay the threat of xenos. And no, I am not changing the edit as that sentence is just awful and can be picked apart since the Imperium at that time was at its most peaceful and stable, not to mention it was more powerful since they still had some of their Primarchs and still retained their Great Crusade-era technology; despite this they were still bitchslapped by the Beast. To think that 41st millennium IoM is more powerful then post-Heresy IoM is stupid, if anything its even worse due to the technological and political decay with no Primarch left to defend them (42nd Millennium and Gathering Storm not included, and even then Roboute would be hard pressed against the Beast). Derpysaurus
There's a lot I'd like to address here, but if I did it would lead to an argument that would rival that on the Damocles Crusade talk page. To put it simply though, I'm quite surprised at how much you seem to like the Beast Arises series, especially with calling the Orks in it a credible threat. Now I'm not going to say that they weren't one in that story, however all of the advantages the Orks had in that series were pulled directly out of somebody's ass and a lot of what happens is in direct conflict with other information/series/the entire canon of the setting. Anyone can look really threatening when somebody pulls all that shit out of nowhere, hands them everything on a silver platter with little to no explanation, has extremely out of character sequences for everybody involved (and I do mean everybody, especially the High Lords and Orks) and this doesn't make for good literature. Also saying that the series could've been ended if the Imperium turned their superweapons on the Orks actually is true, some Cyclonic Torpedo's dropped onto Ullanor would've ended this series a lot faster, as would firing them at the attack moons. I shouldn't be surprised they don't go about that route though, since this is the series that had the Sisters of Silence perform a magic spell on an Ork Weirdboy that caused his and everyone else's heads to explode (just saying it makes me sick, it's something even C.S. Goto wouldn't consider because it's too stupid). -- Triacom (talk) 09:16, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
I'd also like to add something onto a previous point. While the Imperium of M41 isn't as powerful as they were directly after the heresy, in lore they're still considered a major threat because they've been fighting for the majority of the time afterwards, and they've gotten very good at it. I actually agree with Malignant that the Ullanor Orks wouldn't have stood a chance against M41 Imperium because the Imperium would've noticed such a massive threat in advance (as now they've gotten pretty good at predicting the future in a variety of ways), they would know exactly the weapons to bear against the Orks (as well as how even the oddest of Orks fight since there's Inquisitors that specialize in knowing everything there is to know about them now) and they certainly wouldn't have left their superweapons at home (if worst came to worst they would have just driven a battlebarge in to blow up Ullanor, DoW3 style). Also before you bring up Armageddon I'd like to point out that in older lore the Imperium won that fight too, and it was only thanks to bullshit retcon that the Orks are still there because GW dialed the setting back to before they lost. -- Triacom (talk) 09:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Some advice I would like to give to Malignant. Follow what Newerfag said, this along with the Commorragh, Charadon and Xenos edits needs to stop. Whilst Triacom may agree on you for the Beast, in terms of the other pages; no one is agreeing with your statements and edits for now. If several users either find your statements to be wrong or questions your selective bias against xenos factions, then maybe you are at the wrong end of the stick. If multiple users are undoing your edits, it is because your edits is not seen in a agreeable light by the majority. Trying to beg other people to undo their edits means that you don't have any actual foundation in your arguments and it just sounds pathetic. Try and make your argument convincing. Especially in regards to pages such as Charadon and Commorragh where geopolitics comes into play. You are not persuading anyone with that amateurish understanding of hegemonic brinkmanship and power play, especially someone like me who has a good invested interest and knowledge on how nation states conduct their role to neighboring nation states. So it is best to not further test my patience. You may be new here, but if multiple users disagree on your statement, then DEAL. WITH. IT. It sucks, I know, but it is often the best thing to do to avoid an edit war.Derpysaurus
Yes the Imperium did kick their asses. They canonically won the war, did not lose a single major planet or a single major military force. The only significant loss was the Imperial Fist Space Marine Chapter...which was near instantly reformed and had not a single long term consequence other than coming back and killing all the Beasts. There entire Waaagh was then, in under a century, completely undone and the Imperium was stronger than ever. Unlike the Imperium the Beasts all died, their Waaagh was completely destroyed, all the planets they conquered we are told were recaptured so...yeah, obviously the Imperium kicked their asses. I mean the War literally ended with the Imperium stronger than it used to be and had no long term negative consequences for the Imperium. Perhaps if we were told that by the end massive sections of the Imperium were lost to permanent Ork control even 100 years later it would have been better, but we are not, we're told all the damage is undone in a century. I agree the Beast made humanity look stupid, but only because he showed that humans would literally rather focus their efforts on pointless bickering when a threat emerges. The fact that the Beast is only a credible threat because humanity wasn't taking him seriously till the end, is yet more confirmation of how lacklustre his threat really is. Then you mention a lot of 'almost' and 'maybes' which avoids the fact that the Beast, like all Xenos in major conflicts, still lost completely and held on to none of the territory or came back later like the Imperium did. There is a clear, and stark, difference in results for the two sides. If anything, as I've said, the War of the Beasts shows just how powerful the Imperium is with even the uniting of all Orks equipped with super advanced technology still not being enough to seriously damage or reduce it, since it continues to simply grow and expand unimpeded. Also the Beast being the only credible Xenos threat is something I agree with completely, I'm glad we actually agree on this. Actually they didn't use a lot of their advanced technology, as shown in the books, Vangorich even makes a big show of questioning, in the final book, the sheer amount of idiocy and lack of committment with which the Imperium fought the Beast. Furthermore the Charadon edits are just me continuing my discussion with you since I see no reason why I should not answer when you talk to me. But I already agreed with you that relegating Charadon to regional status is fine so I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. On the Xenos page, similarly, me and Watcher spoke and came to an agreement so, again, I'm not sure what you're refering to. Commorragh I understand, although as far as I know you're the only person there currently objecting, as Newerfag ended by stating the Dark Eldar are guerillas which I agreed with. I do want to avoid an edit war, completely, so that's why I'd rather discuss and speak it out before I edit again, or get the permission such as in the case of Watcher to edit. Malignant (talk) 11:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
  • I only disagreed on the notion that the IoM 'kick' their asses because that notion seems like the IoM dealt with The Beast without any problems whatsoever despite the fact that they did had significant problems. You see where I am getting there? So if that is the case then rewrite your edits so it won't outright contradict the page which was talking about how significant of a threat the Beast was. It would come off as completely off. For the Charadon page we were basically talking past each other but for the Commorragh page, it seems that quite a number of users are agreeing with me that Commorragh is a major power. If I would, I would have made Commorragh a regional power but because of where it is situated and their nature, the DEldar have more in common with a Great Power as that is the only place I can put it.Derpysaurus
Don't waste your time arguing with him, Derpy. I've spent nearly a day trying to explain why his understanding of xenos and "great powers" is completely wrong, and it's like talking to a brick wall- a brick wall that thinks its opinion matters more than that of other more established users despite its own confessed ignorance of the lore. He literally does not know about the subjects he's trying to argue about, and he's too stubborn to let others teach him. It would be better to just keep undoing his edits until he gets it through his thick skull that maybe he's the one who's wrong. --Newerfag (talk) 12:55, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Ah, I see then, well no, I don't mean to imply as if there weren't large scale battles and loss of life, if that's what I seemed to be implying then I apologize, just that the end result was a decisive Imperial victory, even with their handicap, which saw the Imperium prosper and grow and suffer no serious long term consequences of a negative nature. I also agree with your assessment of both the Charadon situation and what you said here about Commorragh now actually seems more reasonable to me as well. Thank you. Also, Newerfag, again just going 'he is stupid' doesn't mean anything. Anyone can just say 'x person is y bad quality'.Malignant (talk) 13:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

A specific governmental structure...[edit]

I really appreciate the analysis you're putting in the 40k pages; but under the Q'Orl is the descriptor "Kypselocratic." For the life of me, I can't find a definition of the word. Could you tell me what it means, and where you got it from, or if you didn't extrapolate it yourself? --Scamper (talk) 10:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

  • I kind of made that one up, basically a rough, almost literal english-to-greek translation of a Hive Mind government or 'Ruled by the Hive' per se. Due to the nature of the Q'Orl, I was trying to find a government that incorporates a Hive Mind into it, since I have always found the term Hive Mind felt less of a governmental type and more of a social system. I couldn't so I decided to politicized it and make one up myself. Derpysaurus

Don't copy shit from Lexicanum[edit]

If you want to write articles, write your own text. Do not copy it from Lexicanum. - Biggus Berrus (talk) 12:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

  • I was just using the one from Lexicanum as a temporary template. I was gonna change it to my taste but I was having dinner. Sorry if it looks like it. Derpysaurus


VeryIntelligentShadeOfTheColourBlue (talk): Thanks for adding the new picture to the hydraphants page and the few spelling corrections, any idea who made it and whether it’s to scale?

  • I just searched in Tyranid Hydraphant on the images and this was the first three images that caught my eye. I didn't really ventured too much in the original maker however other than the fact that it was listed as a Hydraphant stand-in. Anyways, if you want to find the page that links that image. Here it is: [1]. Derpysaurus

VeryIntelligentShadeOfTheColourBlue (talk): It’s orks, they’re supposed to be zoggin messy! Thanks for adding the collapsible section though, it does tidy things up, and it was only going to get messier.

VeryIntelligentShadeOfTheColourBlue (talk): Message comprehended, it felt orky in the moment, I had an image of an ork palaeontologist trying to pronounce dinosaur names, also, do you know any references to the names or types of weapons used by a temple gargant? I can just make it all up but id prefer to write stats for weapons that we know it had.

  • Not that I know of. The only fluff bits I know from the temple gargant is that it is fuck huge and it has guns that can threaten imperial voidships. So it would be more appropriate to put the temple gargant in Battlefleet Gothic than any regular 30/40k playlist. Derpysaurus

Big Emps's flaws[edit]

Hi. Thank you for your feedback on my grammar. I have been working on it. Regarding my arguments, I think you have missed the key point: the removal of basic (human) rights in the IoM. That is actually quite in line with the Emp's attitude toward his Primarchs aka "tools". The diversity was about the political one. If you look at the human history, you will see all empires forged through wars fell apart in a relatively short amount of time. Not only diversity is better, but also those empires' military powers were way ahead of their administration and technological capabilities. Big Emps' context is actually the same IMHO.Sulik (talk) 21:54, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Derpysaurus
    • Even by that definition the Imperium is politically diverse. As long as the tithe gets paid, the psyker cull gets done, and no obvious Chaos worship is happening, the Adeptus Terra couldn't care less how you run your planet. And "freedom of religion" just gets the Ruinous Powers' servants showing up on your doorstep. Point is, human rights in the 41st/42nd millennium are not rights, they are luxuries. --Newerfag (talk) 05:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
    • Agreed. And I think the human rights removal is a huge evidence of the Emps' hypocritical facet. The new imposed regime of IoM on sub-governments, as you have suggested, do nothing to improve the quality of those planets. Even the homeworlds of Primarchs were not well attended to, as well. Regarding the diversity, the different versions of modern capitalism on Earths now are better than the notion of "one size fits all", I think. All these points is valid to be included in big Emps' page, IMHO.
      • You don't understand- our human rights directly contributed to many of the worst problems of the Age of Strife. Freedom of speech? Results in mass sedition. Freedom of religion? Again, a golden opportunity for Chaos cults. And if you look through the fluff, quite a few planets are actually good places to live on but don't get any attention (except when they're about to be invaded) because focusing only on the peaceful places makes for a boring wargame.
Furthermore, the Imperium's economic systems vary as widely as its methods of government so in many cases they may very well be as capitalistic as ourselves if not even more so- need I remind you that in many cases the tithe is paid in raw materials or recruits for the Imperial Guard? And of course, that's also neglecting that the Imperium does in fact give benefits in the form of protecting its constituent planets to the best of its abilities, access to astropathic networks, and a form of safe Warp travel in the form of the Astronomican. Point is, they tried diversity as you described in the past and all they got for it was the near-irreversible loss of everything human civilization had worked for, and human rights mean nothing when the only freedom they provide in the long term is the freedom to have your soul eaten by daemons.
I strongly suggest you take the time to look at the Imperium of Man page, as it has addressed many of your claims already. --Newerfag (talk) 16:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
      • Of course, this is just a game. I merely try to address the unreasonable aspects of the Emps. After all, he might be just a halluciated machine-man, or perhaps a rogue Chaos god :). I am not trying to make him more logical, just pointing out his flaws. You cant have a grimdark game if the leader is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-benevolent. In fact, it's these flaws that make the lore more interesting. The astropathic network and the protection of the Imperium are good. But is it worth it? And do these planets need them? How about leaving them, such as the Interex, alone? Or, as hypocrite as big E is, the Monarchia city of Lorgar. IoM page is helpful, yes, but Emps's page is a more suitable place to describe his problems.Sulik (talk) 22:35, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
        • No, because those are not flaws of the Emperor so much as unfortunate necessities that the Emperor had to work with, and given the choice between "freedom" as a slave-race to aliens or Chaos and giving up some of said freedom in order to be able to live as a reasonably normal human being who will likely lead a relatively comfortable if boring life, most people would pick the obvious. And I should remind you that most of those planets that were "left alone" would have almost certainly fallen to Chaos or xenos, and that we already discussed the Monarchia thing on the page. Again, I urge you to read what is already present because it seems you're severely misunderstanding a lot of it (with the fact that you're ascribing them to the Emperor as opposed to the Imperium as a whole being the least of those misunderstandings). --Newerfag (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
        • Thank you for your detail answer. I think there is a rather lengthy paragraph describing big Emps' flaws there already. It is apparently common knowledge that he is not perfect nor without flaws. Therefore, it is unlikely that he had made the best choices, or made all the best decisions. While I do agree that isolated planets are more susceptible to Chaos and xenos, conquering them is hardly the only nor the best choice. Diplomacy, alliance, military pact. But no, big Emps wanted war. And it is also given that he (and his Primarchs) are the most charismatic leaders there are @@. Furthermore, war may win you the land, but only good administration and logistic can win you the people. As there are a lot of missing lore that is not yet provided, our job is to speculate and complain, no?Sulik (talk) 23:03, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
          • Yes, but it is not good to make said speculations without a good cause. And you also forget that in many cases the Imperium did exactly what you said it did, from diplomacy to the administration stuff. It just doesn't get talked about because a wargame without war in it is a boring wargame. Seriously, it's all there. Look it up. That is all I will say, as the burden is now on you to do the research. --Newerfag (talk) 23:15, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
          • The playbook of the Inquisition obviously does not look kindly at the divergence of other. I think you may misunderstand the concept of alliance and compliance. Honestly, I don't get it. How can you insist that big E is perfect while obviously he isn't? Sulik (talk) 10:28, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
            • I'm not. I am, however, saying you don't know anything about half the stuff you're arguing about. Just stop. You're only making yourself look dumber. --Newerfag (talk) 00:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Uhh...can you two put your debates somewhere other than my talk page? I don't want to keep on getting notifications that is no longer on my interests. Derpysaurus
    • Actually I am waiting for your reply, because you did remove my edit at that page, and all these discussions are me defending my points :) Sulik (talk) 23:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Relic Predator[edit]

Stop using my image of a Deimos Predator on your page Relic Predator page. I built the model, I took the photo. Google my name and "Deimos Predator" and you will find my blog where it was stolen from. You probably found it on Spikey Bitz. He stole it from me and doesn't have my permission to use it either. You most certainly do not have permission to use it. Knock it off. Now.

  • You made a good point. However, it would be preferable if you provide that reasoning in the summary below the edit page. Your first edit made it look like it was vandalism and I have dealt with enough vandalizing bots to make me feel suspicious with edits like these. But thanks for the clarification and heads up. Derpysaurus

You used my content without permission on a site that is authored and administered anonymously. It wasn't readily apparent how to contact anyone involved so I removed the image using the only method that was I could discern. I was pretty polite about it given the circumstances.

There are plenty of ways for you to make your mark in the hobby and the world that are more positive and productive than lurking around in this cesspool. I suggest you find one.

Transonic or electric weapons?[edit]

So about the Taser Rod and the Arc Maul. I've checked both of them and yeah, they are not transonic weaponry. Sorry for the edit. I'm adding them to their respective pages now. Thanks for the correction. --Alumno Alumno (talk) 17:39, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

About the Exterminator...[edit]

An exterminator is not really a weapon as such. It is nozzle attached to a small canister of fuel. This is attached to a larger weapon such as an autogun, great sword, or eviscerator, giving the wielder a single shot flamer to use at close quarters

--- Redemptionist Weapon Lists (Page 5)

Every Redemptionist model with an Exterminator I've looked up so far fits this description, "nozzle attached to a small canister," and none looks like a proper military-grade Flamer. I reckon the Lexicanum page put up that image to represent how the Combi-Flamer part can be considered an Exterminator by definition, though it practically probably is not. A bit uncertain because I cannot confirm that part myself; couldn't find a "2004 Specialist Games Catalogue" anywhere online which the author of the Lex page put up as reference for that image. In conclusion, I don't think the Flamer part of a Combi-Flamer is a good primary representation for the Exterminator. I mean, the Exterminator is essentially a poor man's Flamer weapon attachment.

I was planning to put up a joke description on it in the gallery section – something along the line of "Posh Exterminator" with green Orky texts, or something. ------ Aenigmatrix.

  • Oh, okay, sure. Thanks for the heads up. And yeah, you're free in adding the joke if you want to. Derpysaurus
  • Using an image of a combi-weapon isn't that far off the mark honestly. Back when Zealots were given rules in 40k, Exterminators were described as "compact, one-shot flamers fitted to the barrel of a gun or close combat weapon, and are almost exclusively used by Zealots." If an enemy in combat was hit by an exterminator, they were treated as being hit by a flamer (same Strength and AP). Basically they're shitty versions of combi-weapons that only work when you're two feet from an opponent, so it's no wonder nobody else uses them. -- Triacom (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Ben Counter Award[edit]

An anon says you're a faggot. I say it's a 50/50 chance, at least your edits are good. --Kracked Mynd (talk) 03:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC) edit: Yes, I do realize it's ironic I'm saying this.

  • Can't seem to see the link since its 4Channel for some reason. But anyways its 4chan, everyone calls each other faggots or any other form of derivatives. That, or it could be someone posing as me, since I sometimes usually just lurk on normal 4Chan's /tg/. So I don't particularly give a shit. Derpysaurus
At least you're famous enough to garner the attention, right? --Kracked Mynd (talk) 13:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  • I honestly don't see what makes me so famous to be honest. Derpysaurus
  • Fuck. I think I know why I can't see the damned page. Right now the major telcos in Australia has banned access to 4chan, 8chan and Live Leak a week ago. It wasn't only 4channel that I can't see. I can't even connect to 4chan itself for fucks sake! Derpysaurus
Yep, they banned them all a little while ago for hosting uncensored footage of one of the Mosque shootings. -- Triacom (talk) 17:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  • The hilarious thing is that my Uni's internet still allows me to access both 4chan and 4channel. So there's still hope. Anyways, reading that link, I feel kind of amused. Derpysaurus

Clear Tag[edit]

I'm going to assume I'm out of the loop here, so how exactly does the clear tag stop image clashing? I'm noticing no difference between the current edit and the previous one, both on my laptop and mobile devices. -- Triacom (talk) 03:42, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Really? My computer shows the Custodes image clearly pushing the the weapon image down. Strange, it might be a difference in our computers I guess. I am planning to try and fill up the Adrathic weapons anyways, so the clear tag might not be as needed. Derpysaurus
Yeah, I've always wondered why people used the tag because visually I cannot see a difference. -- Triacom (talk) 16:07, 26 April 2019 (UTC)


Please stop your language when you posted it via a summary of Adeptus Mechanicus. There could be minor editors around here. --Dovelina (talk) 12:41, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Fine, I would let this one-off. I can tolerate honest minor grammatical errors, but when entire paragraphs are butchered/rendered difficult to read, I raise eyebrows. Derpysaurus (talk) 16:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your understanding! If you believe that there are any grammatical errors, please reply on my talk page. I am very good at fixing grammar. That is why I'm here! --Dovelina (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

looking for active contributers to my new line of homebrew campaign settings[edit]

hey derpysaurus! wouid you seem interested in helping me with a hr giger themed campaign setting for a generic rpg system? im looing for a fluff writer/game designer/grammar nazi if you are interested in GETTING SHIT DONE tell me in my user talk page Savagereaper (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Sorry man, I usually stay around the 40k section. That and I am currently a bit busy right now. Derpysaurus (talk) 04:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

new homebrew (same guy)[edit]

im looking for people to help me on a new homebrew called warhammer 40,000 for pokemon tabletop united, basically i had a thought about pokemon in the universe of warhammer 40k and wanted to make it a thing for pokemon tabletop united. i need people who couid do the game design, fluff writing, or editing if you are interested inquire on my user talk page. (i came back because maybe this is a little mor up your alley? if you dont want to do this i won't bother you again i promise. you seem like a nice person and i respect that) Savagereaper (talk) 05:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Sorry man. When I meant 40k. I mean vanilla 40k. The only time I ventured out was the Halo homebrew and that's mainly because I know these two franchise well. Pokemon on the other hand...not so much. But hey, if you feel daunted in creating either the fluff, rules or whatever, just slowly take your time. Derpysaurus (talk) 07:40, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

ok ill stop asking you for stuff you dont do. thank you for your time. Savagereaper (talk) 15:14, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

About Latin in the Imperium main page[edit]

Hello! When I write these lines, you were the last guy who wrote in the Imperium main page.

I would like to take your attention to something in the very introduction of the article...

As you may already know, Romains didn't use what are normal, rational things to us like commas or spaces when it came to writing. So, shouldn't it be IMPERIVM HVMANVM and IMPERIVM HOMINIS to be more like IMPERIVMHVMANVM and IMPERIVMHOMINIS?

This may sound like a pointless question, but I've noticed that when GW uses Greco-Romain aesthetics in either videogames or something else, they add spaces, and I can't tell if this intentional or not. What do you think?

  • I am not too brush up about Latin, but I do remember that original Latin texts did not contain any spaces. Space between words was actually a pretty recent phenomenon to allow the illiterate to easily learn text. I may be wrong of course, so your theory could rest on GeeDubs not knowing their own source material...which is par for the course for them. Derpysaurus (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
  • As I thought. :p Anyway, I forgot to ask you to edit the darn thing, because I can't do it meself. I originally asked on the Imperium talk thread, but this place seemed to be quite... caustic.

Since we're here, I've got another question. I'm quite new here, and I edit some tidbits times to times. Some months ago, I've got myself in an editing feud about the Shas o Kais article. He recently got upgraded into a doom-like one man army, and one guy didn't like that. A lot. So he rant off about how this is stupid and whatnot, and then finishes by insulting the author. I try a more neutral approach, and goes as well as you think it goes. What is the wiki stance on this?

  • If you have a disagreement with another editor. It's best to go to his talk/discussion page and smooth things out. If things get heated however, best to get someone like AssistantWikiFag or some other admin user to settle things down. Derpysaurus (talk) 05:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

About those Fortifications[edit]

Does each fortification structure really need its own page? Most of the articles are fairly short and I doubt more will be added on, and I can't pick out any pages made today that are longer than some of the armoury entries. More is said about certain flamer weapons than the structures and that's all on a single page, so I'm not sure we need to keep the 40k fortifications separate like that, it just makes them more of a hassle to go through. -- Triacom (talk) 09:14, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

  • I understand your point. I only added the fortifications based upon the tactics page listed there for consistency sake. Of course, some fortifications like the Aegis and Imperial Defence Lines, I could see being fused into one page. The rest, I am not too sure. Derpysaurus (talk) 09:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Maybe do an 'Imperial Defence Lines' page and an 'Imperial Fortresses' page? That'd cover the Aegis and trenches for the former and the various bunkers and bastions for the latter? -- 09:23, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm not really sure there's that much to say about either. I could see breaking it up into Imperial, Chaos and Xenos fortifications, but I don't think the pages are going to grow that much larger than they currently are, and they'd make a decent sized article set for the three if they were combined. -- Triacom (talk) 09:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  • I mean, I guess it depends on which fortifications we are talking about. The defence lines as aforementioned can be fused as one page as they are quite similar in function. Although structures like the Aquila Strongpoint, Firestorm Redoubt and Imperial Fortress Walls are trickier due to the difference in...well...scale, size and function.Derpysaurus (talk) 09:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Aren't most of the weapons pages the same? As in weapons that are different in size/function but linked by something general (such as being laser/auto/gauss/etc)? -- 09:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  • That is true. Problem is categorizing them. It could be done, just needs to make sure it is done right. Theoretically, we could split them into Defence Lines, Gun Platforms and Bunkers. But then you have guys like the Void Shield Generator and Skyshield Landing Pad which are their own unique thing that defies any categorization that I know off. Moreover, there are structures that combine two categorizations like the Firestorm Redoubt and Fortress of Redemption. Don't even get me started on the Tectonic Fragdrill which is an Imperial equipment/weapon/fortification/vehicle repurposed for Genestealer uses. Derpysaurus (talk) 09:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I'd do it as Defence Lines, Gun Platforms and Bunkers/Fortresses (with the Firestorm and Fortress under bunkers), then. With the other ones that don't fit as their own pages (and able to be expanded renamed if we ever get similar things). And god please don't remind me of the monstrosity that is the fragdrill. -- 09:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Hmmm, that might work. Although, we would need to create a new page for each section, which shouldn't really be a problem. More time-consuming. Derpysaurus (talk) 09:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
It's more just copy-pasting and redirecting the pages, which would probably take only an hour at most. -- Triacom (talk) 18:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)