User talk:Lord Of The Lemmings

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Don't bother me with pointlessness. Either tell me what you want or disagree with me about or get lost, and make sure it's a legitimate complaint, not some horseshit thing too.

I keep what is important, and delete what is not.

Iron Hands page[edit]

Just to let you know, the reason I remove correct info if it's contradictory to what's on the main page instead of correcting it myself is to get the original poster to correct it. If you're always fixing it for them, you're always going to be fixing it for them and they don't learn a thing, that's why I removed the named Iron Hands character as a quick example. -- Triacom (talk) 19:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Interesting point. But why not just fix it? Do anons really care enough to learn? I haven't been here long enough to know. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 01:31, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I'd say they come back around ~80% of the time and while it's not normally an issue on the main pages like the Iron Hands, it gets really bad on tactics pages if you don't get them to fix it themselves. If they continue trying to add it then I'll leave them a comment on their talk page and that usually fixes the issue. -- Triacom (talk) 02:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

/leftypol/lacks acting up[edit]

Please help do something about Triacom and HussarZwei. The latter is going full TDS and actively inserting "christians" and "conservatives" into the page for "/pol/" while actively downplaying and deleting text from "SJW", has said that "fascism is the end result of conservatism", is openly mentioning and mocking Trump supporters and the former is actively defending his actions. I'm not even from America (let alone conservative or christian), and I'm sick of seeing American Current Year politics being dragged into everything, especially the one apolitical wiki I've loved browsing for the past few years.

For someone claims not to be a /pol/ack, you seem awfully found of calling people you don't like "Leftists", "SJWs", and acusing them of TDS. -- HussarZwei (talk) 11:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Awfully cute, Hussar. You tried to "rightfully" delete my post first, and now that it gets reverted you "rightfully" resort to childish insults and call me a /pol/ack, and "rightfully" project your own insecurities and instability unto me. I'm not the one going out to ideologically and "rightfully" attack others and wish death and hurt on them while systematically and quietly "rightfully" censoring any text on the page of the opposite ideological spectrum. YOU are.
This is a waste of my time. Anon, sign your posts. Legitimate concerns should be addressed to assistant wikifag or Root, or else debated on the actual page. I will check the pol page, but I tend to agree with Triacom on most things due to the fact he is somewhat competent and not retarded. Hussar Zwei, buzz off. My talk page is not a forum for you to argue pointless crap with an anon. Keep it somewhere else, but definitely not here, or did you both fail to see the above heading?--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 22:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Pardon. I didn't know who to turn to at the time other than you since I noted you were against this sort of change as summarized in a past edit. Anyways it doesn't really matter that much now that a week's passed, it got resolved-ish; he got banned for a day but he's back and making these changes again. --77.111.245.13 01:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Allow me to apologize. I have looked into it and spoken with Triacom. We agree that he is taking it too far anon. I will do my best to resolve this issue as quickly as convenient. (I.E. Tonight) --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 02:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
It's okay, I just think of it as you having a whole bunch of stuff on your own plate as well. Thanks for looking into it. --77.111.245.13 02:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Dear Lemming, Hussar is at it again. "They are human beings suffering from a horrible disease called hatred and ignorance." -> "They are mutants suffering from a horrible mutation called conservativism, hatred and ignorance." https://1d4chan.org/index.php?title=%2Fpol%2F&type=revision&diff=669187&oldid=669185 --77.111.245.14 03:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
That edit was from few days ago. He is not doing it currently.--73.41.249.220 04:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

new homebrew[edit]

im looking for people to help me on a new homebrew called warhammer 40,000 for pokemon tabletop united, basically i had a thought about pokemon in the universe of warhammer 40k and wanted to make it a thing for pokemon tabletop united. i need people who couid do the game design, fluff writing, or editing if you are interested inquire on my user talk page. Savagereaper (talk) 05:39, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

ok its fine if you downt want to contribute.

Reddit Clarification[edit]

I'm posting this here to provide some clarification on my part. I wanted to draw attention to 40k related sub Reddits like r/40klore and r/forgeworld, much like how the page for Tumblr lists a number of /tg/ related threads. I also wanted to highlight the rivalry between Reddit and 4Chan. Triacom himself said that 4chan and Reddit dislike one another, which seems a least somewhat relevant to a wiki about 4chan. Also I asked the question on Newerfag’s page because when he undid my first attempt to flesh out the article, the summary for his edit described Reddit as left-wing as /pol/. I wanted some more clarification on the statement he made. To his credit, he provided a detailed explanation. -- HussarZwei (talk) 19:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I appreciate the honesty. What you are saying makes sense, I apologize for being presumptuous. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 19:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
One a side note Piroko called for deleting the Tumblr article, what are your thoughts? -- HussarZwei (talk) 20:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I'll need context, I'll check it out and respond there. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 02:41, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
His request to delete the Tumblr article is on the Reddit talk page. I used the existence of the Tumblr page as an argument in favor of keeping the Reddit page. To Piroko's credit, he was willing to concede the point. In fact, he advocated for deleting both the Reddit and Tumblr pages. Considering that Tumblr and Reddit are both of similar relevance to /tg/, this is a perfectly reasonable position to hold, even if I disagree with it. -- HussarZwei (talk) 03:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I tend to wonder what the relevance of both even is. I get they have stuff on their websites related to our interests, but so does wikipedia. I would concur deleting them both, the relevance is barely there. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 03:28, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Aliens[edit]

Feels a little harsh on Weaver as I thought it was more of a miss guided effort to recapture horror aspect of the comparatively helpless humans versus one alien from the initial film (which also didn't feature much in the way of weaponry either) than a political statement from one of the actors. To me one of the big issue in addition to all the ones you mentioned was while Alien was original and you didn't know what to expect, it was all known and so less unsettling this time round.--Because (talk) 00:55, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I wasn't entirely sure what to write myself, so I would be willing to let others improve or change it as they see fit. I don't have a lot of time on my hands anymore, so I decided to create a detailed enough frame for others to work with. I appreciate the input. Don't forget to sign your posts in the future. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 00:45, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

You do realize[edit]

...that your recent edits look a lot like petty vandalism for either a personal agenda or just vandalism for the sake of vandalism, right? Saarlacfunkel (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Lord of the Lemmings has the moral high ground. You have a lot of nerve disagreeing with someone who has moral compass instead of a personal agenda. If anything, the fact that you would even consider accusing LOTL of having a personal agenda makes you highly suspect, if not a straight up cyberbully. HussarZwei (talk) 17:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Says the guy who has repeatedly called for violence against political groups that they don't like. You have absolutely no privilege to judge who has moral high ground.--2601:203:480:4C60:3504:2E21:B011:CDA5 20:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Well said anon--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 20:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
That was sarcasm, right? If it was, or even if it wasn't, I'd be willing to believe "brainfart", as I've occasionally reverted to the wrong version by accident when editing something before. Saarlacfunkel (talk) 18:28, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
I know Saarlac. I'll make sure to add notes more in the future regarding my edits. Also, I don't need you to defend me Zwei. Especially you. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 19:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Good luck Mr. Lemmings, and suffer the Loli not to live. HussarZwei (talk) 04:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Discord?[edit]

The noise on root talk last week got me thinking about discord again. I think it's clear root will never put in the effort to set up any sort of off site comms. Which kinda sucks because while I'd love to see a discord for 1d4chan, I'm lazy and really don't want to have to police it, particularly when it's clear it wouldn't have any buy in from the actual site. If I was going to go to that trouble, I'd build my own site too, which is even more trouble than I want to dig into. But I also suspect that if you, me, tria, saarlac and the other regulars set up a discord for the site and put some links up for it, root probably wouldn't care. Thoughts? --Piroko (talk) 04:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

I'd be down for it. I'll think about what we would need in terms of channels and create it tomorrow. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 05:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I don't think we'd need a crazy number of channels, of the various product families I think only the big four really have enough edit activity to warrant anything special (D&D/Pathfinder, WFB, 40k, and Star Wars). Maybe homebrew, general rpg, general tabletop, general minis, And of course, talk. --Piroko (talk) 14:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Sounds good, I'll get on it right now --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 18:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
It's up. I'll send an invite or some crap tomorrow afternoon --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 03:52, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be simpler to have a public lobby with a public link? --Piroko (talk) 04:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
I'll look into that and try to fine tune the settings. I'm concerned about trolls, so I planned on the security being somewhat high. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 04:40, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Can completely understand that. The way I've seen it done before is you have just a lobby channel where people can request access. That way you can have a discord link, while still keeping the riff raff out of the main channels. --Piroko (talk) 04:42, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

How's the setup going? I haven't heard anything from ya in a while. --Piroko (talk) 22:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I wanted to tell you earlier. Sorry, I was visiting family in another state, and it would be rude and unacceptable to squander time sitting on a phone doing work on a discord server. I'll double check and see how it's working right now. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 05:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
https://discord.gg/QkkAGerb7H
This should work. I'm probably going to be super slow, but I'll try to get you a role ASAP.--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 05:27, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
The link successfully did load into discord, although you appear to have "verify identity by phone" enabled which I suspect is going to be a hell no from most (read: all) of this community. --Piroko (talk) 05:31, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Never would have taken you for the SJW sort, but I guess power goes to everyone's head. I should have started the discord myself. --Piroko (talk) 16:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I beg pardon? --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 18:22, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
It's not the first time I've been Et tu Brute?-ed and it probably won't be the last because I'm lazy and don't want to be in charge. --Piroko (talk) 18:42, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I could go over why I kicked you (Temporarily) if you want. If it helps at all, I also kicked Maul and revoked his editor status, same as you. He was playing shill tactics, and the whole "conversation" was devolving quickly --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 18:56, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't do half measures Lemming. When someone stabs me in the back, they make their message clear. The only way I'd rejoin the discord is if you surrendered your position to me, which we both know you're not going to do. I don't care enough to make a 1d4chan non-sjw discord. So, y'know, you're welcome for the idea of creating a discord. Enjoy the crown. --Piroko (talk) 19:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Then that is ultimately your choice acting on flawed information. I really didn't want to do what I did earlier, but you both left me no choice. I am sorry that we cannot resolve our differences on this subject. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 19:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
"you both left me no choice" That's cope. You chose. You chose the way I wouldn't have were our roles reversed. The only thing I regret was believing a year ago that you were the right man for the job. --Piroko (talk) 19:43, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
You are entitled to your opinion on this. You are also welcome back at any time you wish. But I kicked you both to cool the situation off. I will not say otherwise. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Discussing Star Wars stuff[edit]

Greetings. Since you seem to be an avid Star Wars fan and editor like myself, I felt it would be a good idea to discuss things with you so as to hopefully make sure flame wars don't happen (since no one wants those obviously).

I personally think its better to classify Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan as Skub rather than 100% bad. Not everybody hated those shows (I myself liked both of them, especially Obi-Wan). And I personally don't think a lot of the OWK criticisms are all that valid. Mostly just feels like fans being overly salty again. Granted, that's what us fans do best, but still. But I'm happy to discuss with you. --Lord Grievous (talk) 15:47, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey Grievous! I actually have been noticing your edits too, and I am ok with the classification because I initially enjoyed yhe Book of Boba Fett. However I am trying to balance my viewpoint of "I liked this" with the reality that it might not be very good. For example of a source I use to check my bias and fan bias, I use a channel called Schafrillas Productions. He does a great breakdown on why OWK kinda isn't great, but to your point it isn't 100% bad. I'll keep an eye on the page if I have time. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 04:20, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
My thanks.

As for Schafrillas, I don't view him as an infallible authority. He did call Ralph Breaks the Internet a "disaster", and I personally regard that as hyperbole myself. But yeah, it isn't perfect. But I'd say there's a wide gap between perfect and dud. ;) --Lord Grievous (talk) 19:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't either, but I find him very helpful. We are both Star War fans and lean towards liking Star Wars content. He is a little more objective, so I find that his perspective can provide insights I might not have thought of. In any case he's a lot better than citing the typical nerd rage crowds who just scream "WOKE" without knowing what that word even means.--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 20:23, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
So I tried my hand at bringing balance to the Fo- Boba Fett and Kenobi entries, and am pleasantly surprised I'm not the only one in the general ballpark of "enjoyed it, can see it's not perfect" for both! I tried to respect the notable/relevant complaints (because I err on the side of preserving critiques/analyses on this site, especially from users) while holding back on gushing on stuff I found enjoyable (particularly the season finales in both series) to avoid bloat. XD --TheWriteStuff (talk) 02:40, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
From what I have read you seemed to do a good job. At the very least we've gotten to the point of the Edit war calming down.--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 19:26, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Someone just undid the more diplomatic edits, once again making BoB and OWK's descriptions completely negative in tone. Probably the same salty anonymous user from before up to his old tricks, if I had to guess. I would be grateful to anyone who could undo his edits back to the last version. --Lord Grievous (talk) 05:33, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Is it really salt or idiotic trying to be realistic to the qualify of these shows? I’m being as true as possible with how bad they are, yet an idiot like you thinks there’s something good enough to make it a “skub” instead of its true purpose: Canonbreaking, timewasting, disneyfied Garbage. There’s nothing good about a show that breaks its own canon 6 episodes in, and saying anything otherwise implies there’s something enjoyable to it. Shut the fuck up with your “diplomacy” and grow up.

Yes...yes it is. Your venomous response pretty neatly proves it. The rest isn't even worth responding to. --Lord Grievous (talk) 11:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
I've found that finding a silver lining in everything makes me a far happier person than complaining perpetually. That does not mean there aren't problems, and I have stated my problems with the show pretty clearly. But you're way too invested into this, primarily because you have some very clear salt and vitriole and reflect it in your writing. I would oncourage two things: One, leave the article alone. It is fine without your edits and not written with the point of hating everyone short of yourself. Two: Try to see the positive in things. I myself hate Star Wars Rebels, but I will begrudgingly admit there are things that they did right here and there.--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 17:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

>The rest isn't even worth responding to

That right there is why you’re not a good person. You only cared about the claim against yourself and nothing more about what I say, and assume it’s all venomous because of it. You turned this whole argument about yourself rather than the content of the show, and your defensive reaction to that over every other claim shows how much you can compromise articles just to make it about your stupid feelings than to be as transparent as possible.

As for Lemmings: Shut the Fuck Up. Who the fuck cares what you think about shit? I’m not here saying I hate the show personally, I’m being as honest to the article about the content, and the responses by idiots such as yourself talking about finding silver lines where they don’t exist proves my point of your incapability at learning and finding a middle point. Just because there are overall good things in a metaphorical pile of sewage doesn’t mean it makes the show worth watching nor enjoyable 90% of the time. Just admit the show sucks and move on. No need to make it about yourselves or what I said about you.

I understand you are passionate about Star Wars, and I love the franchise too. I am not impressed with all of the Disney content, but dragging people onto the actual article's page is not ok. It is unprecedented and frankly petty and innappropriate. I would love to have you edit, but you keep being very insulting, which does not communicate your point well. I disagree with Lord Grievous on some things, but regardless of that we can work together to make the article better. There's no need to get into an egofest brawl over something that frankly isn't that important. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 22:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
I think it might be wise to lock the page such that only users with an account can edit it. Not sure if that is possible, but if it is, I believe the situation has reached that point.

Also, on an unrelated topic, sad to hear you hate Rebels. I personally think its alright. Not without its flaws, mind you, but I don't think it rises to the level of being hate-worthy myself. That better fits Star Wars: Resistance. --Lord Grievous (talk) 22:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Ego is a hard thing to control, and hatred alone is a very dangerous emotion when used improperly. I apologize to Lord Grievous for bringing him up in the wiki regardless of the quality of the show. The show may be dumb, but that doesn’t excuse us to stoop to such levels. I know there will probably still be more arguments over what the article should say; but it’s /TG/. Maybe we should ask them instead of us. We could call this:

EDIT WARS EPISODE ONE: THE PHANTOM ANONYMOUS

At the very least attempt to ask them what they think, or even /tv/. What harm could a few more voices do?--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 00:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

I’ll make a post second/third thing in the morning. All I hope out of all of this is an official “EDIT WAR” picture in the star wars font, and some mockup titles… “Attack of the Clones” can stay given the context of bots/smurfs.

I'd say the harm would be causing an already bad edit war to escalate. A disagreement between a handful of folks has already proven unpleasant enough. If we were to add in an entire forum's worth of people, that would probably just make it even more contentious. That, and given the amount of pure bile I have been subjected to up to this point, I can't say I relish the thought of having to argue my case before anyone with a similar disposition.

The Skub label is the accurate one. The simple fact that an intense debate about whether the show is decent or bad has dragged on this long proves it. I could also point to the show's IMDB score being a respectable 7.1, with the score for the last episode being an 8.4, which pretty neatly contradicts the idea that everyone's taken against it. I also think it would be better for the page to read like something trying to sound objective and not just a torrent of salty rage. --Lord Grievous (talk) 04:12, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

An idea just occurred to me: since the main Star Wars page doesn't really give reviews or breakdowns of any of the other Disney SW stuff overall, might I suggest giving OWK and Book of Boba Fett their own separate pages (as many of the other Disney SW shows have), and figure out what to put on them from there? If nothing else, it would stop the edit war on the main Star Wars page. --Lord Grievous (talk) 20:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Your idea is pretty clever, and I like it. What if we expanded it a little in scope? For example, all the minor live action shows that aren't huge deals like The Mandalorian could go on it? I think you have a good idea.--Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

It's a deal. And thanks, I thought so too :) --Lord Grievous (talk) 00:29, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

So do you want to create the new page, or should I? For the record, I'm a bit better/more comfortable editing than making a new page whole cloth. --Lord Grievous (talk) 13:44, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

You should get your feet wet on creating pages. This will be a great way for you to learn. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 14:29, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Already did it. Any way to lock it so that only users with an account can edit? That would also help to deter future flame wars. --Lord Grievous (talk) 14:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

That's only something that Root can do, and isn't really needed. --Lord Of The Lemmings (talk) 14:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars: Rebels[edit]

You mentioned you did not like Rebels. I personally like it well enough, though for sure it has its lows. I would happily discuss it with you if you like. It would be a refreshing change of pace to discuss Star Wars with someone who doesn't flame. --Lord Grievous (talk) 01:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)