User talk:Namefag

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SJW sandbox[edit]

You've sort of got the right idea, but 1d4chan really doesn't need a comprehensive explanation of what an SJW is. The nature of 4chan is such that if you're here you probably already have the gist and if you don't, you'll look it up on Encyclopedia Dramatica. An SJW page here should primarily be focused on SJWs fucking up traditional games, plus memes and enough context to make the main body of the article cohesive. OriginalPrankster (talk) 00:34, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Hypocrite. You did the exact same thing you're criticizing Namefag for on your own page. Take your own advice and try to stop looking for their influence in every shadow. --Newerfag (talk) 03:07, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Are you just stalking me so you can revert everything I do that you don't like? I'm not trying to write a research paper here, I'm trying to make a list of stupid shit that happens and why. "This is a piece of stupid shit, this is why it's done, this is why it's detrimental to the quality of the RPG/campaign." As brief and punchy as possible, but without relying entirely on the reader's prior experience to fill in the blanks. OriginalPrankster (talk) 13:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Acknowledged, but I still see little need to categorize every possible way it can manifest since the "why it's detrimental to the quality of the RPG/campaign" part is almost always self-evident. More importantly, the "Cultural Marxism" part is an outright falsehood which can be described best as a hybrid of conspiracy theory and literal Nazi propaganda updated for the modern age ([1]). If you wish to be taken seriously, focus on facts just as they supposedly do not. --Newerfag (talk) 17:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
I just copy/pasted a section that was removed from the main SJW page into OriginalPrankster's big version of the page. As for the heading that was removed... to me "Cultural Marxism" is a motte-and-bailey argument used whenever anyone attacks "critical theory" for being Marxist. Though it varies from redirecting the criticism to be really attacking something that does not exist, or saying that critical theory itself does not exist, it is just a conspiracy theory made by Nazis!--Namefag (talk) 00:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Regardless, none of the people who talk about critical theory in contexts involving SJWs even know what it is- not even the ones who think they're speaking in favor of it. As I assume that everyone here (including myself, as I know only the barest basics behind the theory and next to nothing of its practice) has no idea how it might actually function, I suggest we leave those matters to the folks who have a vague idea of what the fuck they're doing with it. (I did notice, upon some research, that the term was first used as an insult towards the Frankfurt school by other Marxists, with the implication that they were subsumed by middle class capitalism due to their disinterest in revolutionary matters.) --Newerfag (talk) 02:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that I made both the pages for the purpose of humor on other pages. Such as Gretchin Revolutionary Committee and Black Templars. Similar to our pages for things like Fail. So while it should be informative, the original purpose of the page was comedy. --Thannak (talk) 03:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
No one except a secret group of experts knows what critical theory is? Ridiculous. Basically, it goes that "truth" as we know it is just a product sold by the capitalist bourgeoisie, which is bought (literally and figuratively) by the masses and viewed "uncritically" which creates complacency. To understand how oppressed one is, one must view the world through a "critical" analysis which challenges the dominant view. Though this might sound sane, the ironically uncritical "critical" views are the surreal post-modern foundations for the beliefs of the SJWs.--Namefag (talk) 04:30, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
I didn't say it was secret, just easily misunderstood. Like how you're doing it now in linking an obscure school of washed-up socialist wannabes to a group who can't tell the difference between Karl Marx and Groucho Marx. If you really knew about their history, you'd know they've historically been chameleons, jumping from one vague concept to the next in order to fit with the times and possessed of a pathological inability to stick with a single principle. But none of this matters, because it's not like anyone will ever use it in an RPG without confusing the shit out of people. I thought you wanted to make it briefer, not even more of a rambling, ranting mess that says more about its writers than about its subject matter. And Thannak, politics never stays funny for long on the internet. It's cancer now, and the sooner it gets removed the fucking better. In fact, I already asked AssistantWikifag to deal with them permanently; with any luck, he'll actually listen this time and we'll be able to erase every last trace of politics from this wiki for good. --Newerfag (talk) 07:27, 20 February 2018 (UTC)