User talk:The Forgefather

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You said there was already enough blamming on this wiki. just like dakka, there will NEVER be enough. Please contact your local and freindly commisar for reeducation.

You are a glorious faggot. Glory be to you and your work. - VinceTheFaggot

Thou hast forged and reforged much of /tg/, and for that, I thank you. ~ random.randint(edit) (talk) 01:15, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

The whole thing about deleting the Video Games page[edit]

As much as I respect ye for yer work Forge-lad, if I were you I'd stop for a moment with deleting the page and ask the people on bot this wiki and on /tg/ before you execute any extreme actions. Just saying. Also that people do talk about /tg/ related videogames on /tg/ and games that are close to tabletop games that are similar. - Ben (talk) 11:37, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

They speak about certain games, yes. However, just about all of these games have pages of their own, and the video games page in its current form isn't much more than a list of those pages.--The Forgefather (talk)
Hmmmmm. Well they do have detail on respective games (I did one and expanded two). On the other hand, what do you propose to do with it? - Ben (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Highlander: The Gathering removed from deleted[edit]

I undid your flagging for deletion of the Highlander page. As per my comment on the talk page, the article was created because the 23 other pages that link to it were linking to an empty page. If the page is going to be deleted, I'd suggest removing the broken links first- (or simply remove the "fan made games" from the WoD games template). Otherwise the page will simply reappear in "most wanted pages" again.

Please do stop[edit]

For the love of the almighty man emperor, please stop removing linking pages and archive pages. I don't get what your beef is with mechanically necessary pages, but it needs to stop.Evilexecutive (talk) 02:10, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

"Archive pages" are unnecessary, because several archives exist. If a page has no content besides a link to a thread, I see no reason why it should exist when 4plebs, warosu, suptg, and other sites already perform that same function.--The Forgefather
Ah yes, why would we ever want to archive anything ON A FUCKING WIKI? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. If it has next to no content, that's what the stub tag is for. -- Triacom (talk) 06:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Because wikis aren't archives. Is there some part of that you don't understand?--The Forgefather
Did you eat fucking paint chips when you were a child? Just from viewing this talk page it's pretty obvious you flaunt your dick around by deleting stuff you deem unrelated to /tg/. Do us a favor: listen to the goddamn community before you do shit or fuck off.
Are there any salient points you wish to make, or do you just enjoy making vague statements whilst hoping others agree with you?--The Forgefather
Hoping? I'm pretty sure most do agree with him. 17:32, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Right on schedule. As I asked Hellsing, is there any point you wish to make?--The Forgefather
Wiki's aren't archives? YES THEY ARE. In fact, the sole reason any wiki exists is to be an archive, that's their entire purpose, not understanding this is just more proof that you really shouldn't be wantonly slapping delete tags on everything you don't like. -- Triacom (talk) 17:59, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Archive: A collection of historical documents (in this case threads), whose purpose is only to keep said documents available.
  • Wiki: An encyclopedia that is produced collaboratively.
    • Encyclopedia: A unified database on either one subject or a variety of subjects, for the purpose of educating on that subject.
To provide an example: How, exactly, are the Imperium of Man, Dungeons and Dragons, or Shadowrun articles archives?--The Forgefather
You're failing to see that archives aren't just historical records and events, it's INFORMATION in general. Archives store information, encyclopedias present the information in a statistical and unbiased manner. As we know, fa/tg/uys are extremely biased. Speaking of bias, this Wiki is community run, meaning at the end of the day WE decide what is put on 1d4chan, not some self-appointed asshole who deletes and erases stuff willy-nilly. That priciple is reason enough for you to just fucking ASK before you take shit down. That's all we want.
Thanks, and Forgefather, Encyclopedia databases are archives, therefore a wiki is an archive, simple as that. -- Triacom (talk) 18:50, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
You're using an overly-generalized definition of "archive" to prove your point. Using it as a synonym for "database" is not grammatically correct and only serves to obfuscate the meaning. To clarify, 1d4chan is not, nor does it need to be, an archive in the way that Warosu is an archive, because sites like Warosu, 4plebs, and suptg exist.--The Forgefather
Wether it's grammatically right or not doesn't matter; it's how we decide to use the termn, and it's how the others describe. So unless you can get the entire /tg/ to agree with you, you're outmatched.
Oh there's variations on the archives, much like there's different boards on 4chan, however it is an archive nonetheless and comparing it to other archives that work differently will get you nowhere. -- Triacom (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Again I feel the need to jump in and do the clarification Forgefather seems to be so obstinately unwilling to give. I do not deny that 1d4chan is an archive. However, as of late it has become an undiscriminating and very poor quality archive because it (or more precisely, certain elements among its community) has trouble determining what it should and should not care about, thus cluttering it with large quantities of information that can only be described as having dubious worth. In light of this, it would be prudent to view Forgefather as simply wishing that this wiki would return to its roots, and ideally stay there without being distracted by tangential subjects. --Newerfag (talk) 08:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
If that was really what they wanted, then they wouldn't attempt to delete archive pages. They've been around for a very long time that claiming deleting them is returning the wiki to its roots is highly inaccurate at best (and an outright lie at worst), not to mention how many times they've argued against several users without trying any sort of compromise, as well as attempting to delete pages that were made directly as a result of something that happened on /tg/. Also they did admit in a different discussion that they delete whatever they don't like, just because they don't like it, so no, they're not somebody trying to return the wiki to how it used to be. -- Triacom (talk) 09:32, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Good point, especially how my own attempts at brokering a compromise on the Sword page appear to have reached a deadlock. At this rate, I think perhaps an intervention from Wikifag or AssistantWikifag may be in order. --Newerfag (talk) 16:43, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
When I have accrued both the time and the patience to deal with the Sword page, work on it shall resume.--The Forgefather

Codices and Codexes[edit]

GW has used both terms, I don´t really care one way or the other I just wanted to let you know I laughed a lot first when I saw WiseDane write codex, knowing you would change it and even more once you actually did. - AngryPirate

GW also uses "dice" to refer to the singular. I am aware that dictionaries have begun to cave in to the multitudes that wield Occam's Razor as if it was a chainsaw over the centuries; it does not in my mind detract from the superiority of the original Latin derivative spelling.--The Forgefather
"Army List Entries The rules for your Citadel miniatures are found in a wide range of Games Workshop publications, such as codexes, codex supplements and dataslates." - Main rulebook pg 676. But as I said I don´t care either way. - Angry Pirate
I am aware of your apathy on this matter, though I wonder why you're bothering to source your claim when I never disputed it.--The Forgefather
I thought you were disputing it. Misunderstanding on my part. - Angry Pirate